I guess this also helps explain the 2 week depressed immune response, the body is still producing and trying to fight off spike well into 2 weeks on. Wasn't this supposed to not leave the area of the shoulder, period?
They did a very thorough investigation up to 48 hours after injection and of course they were not concerned that LNP concentration increases in that 48 hours in multiple organs. Why would they? It's safe and effective because they say so.
Beside the joke what is described here was my main concern since the beginning. Even without testing I never believed that anyone can 100% guarantee that an injection stay on the injection site and that's it. LNPs going around randomly carrying mRNA codes who can guarantee me that another organ will not go haywire and start producing s-proteins. Absolutely not believable. Anyone could use common sense and understand that this was fairy tale sold by the marketing department.
Why would the presence of v-spike for 2 weeks cause a depressed immune response? I would think it would be an elevated immune response to fight the v-spike.
I always wondered what the mechanism was for the lower cd8 cells post-vax. Any ideas? The study indicates white blood cells are not expressing v-spike.
The Spike/RBD can interact with certain cells and after presentation it (for some reason nobody wants to investigate) it depresses the immune system, I thought it was merely the Spike but clearly this thing is being expressed, broken down, and eliciting all sorts of inflammatory responses and different types of cell death everywhere.
The lower CD8 cells is because of the heavy shift towards CD4, body always compensates, other mechanisms apply too, like the binding of certain protein/molecules to other proteins in our body.
people are lining up now to inject this in babies 💔 I can't believe people were parroting the "it won't leave the shoulder" talking point. That never made any sense, LOL
The evidence on how this thing is useless, and at this point, dangerous, is biblical, yet people insist on doing that to give Pfizer money. I am sad for the kids, will hope their bodies can heal, but outside that, can't do much.
Oh for the day when you don’t need to lead with ‘COVID-19 mRNA vaccines effectively reduce incidence of severe disease, hospitalisation and death’ in order to get published.
One of the papers I find most pertinent and important, was retracted recently. I went to see why, the retraction letter literarily states it was retracted because the authors criticized the vaccine. It is the sole reason of the retraction LOL.
No bueno. I'm curious why the WBC detection stops after 6 days? WBC: "F it, we can't hold back the horde anymore. I quit!"
I love the sacred sacrament. "COVID-19 mRNA vaccines effectively reduce incidence of severe disease, hospitalisation and death." They should at least pretend to be honest and say "COVID-19 mRNA vaccines effectively reduce incidence of severe disease and hospitalisation from COVID-19." They may in fact, increase your net likelihood of hospitalization, and the trial did not demonstrate a mortality benefit.
There is a couple new studies that literally state exactly that, booster against Omicron, after merely weeks, increase your overall risk to everything. Severity, hospitalization and death, the younger you are, the higher the risk.
Either they write that, or they don't get published. One of the papers I find most important among all papers, was recently retracted, I went to see why, and the retraction letter literally states it was because the authors criticized the vaccination and it might be dangerous to use the Spike.
"prolonged antigenic stimulation may contribute to effective immune responses, especially the proliferation of memory T-cells".... You have to be f***ing kidding me! What cells do they think are going to be expressing the spike for then the memory T cells and immune system to produce an inflammatory response, and kill the cells expressing spike!?!!! (A sarcastic, exasperated question).
I just read the study, it sounds like they found the mRNA in the plasma of all 16 people people, which is a strong indicator that it's happening in all vaccinated people to some extent.
Thanks for getting this study out to us asap. 👍🏼👏🙏
It is happening to all vaccinated, it is because of the LNP, LNPs were designed to pierce everything without activating a immune or physiological response. They are stealth vectors basically.
I recall those other studies that showed that vaccine spike protein was in circulation for the 60 days post in which they only tested for , or was it the 4 months in the blood serum where the immunity seemed to also follow the same pattern as serum spike protein . But then there is the cell extraction where they found the mrna active in cells 60 days post vaccine , seemingly still actively making spike protein . So now this one is a bit different as it relates sorcficslly how long the injected substance floats around before permeating cells , and creating spike protein for up to yo 60 days or more, that then circulate in the blood for 4 months or more . I think I got that right
I'm seeing recommendations to take Liposomal Vit C as it allows achieving a higher dose in the blood stream rather than mostly oxidizing in the gut and (at high doses) giving you the runs. But as one can guess from the name, it is appears (to a layman) the same method for the same purpose as the Vax lipid nanoparticle. It protects the Vit C from break down to early and helps it pass through fat soluble membranes. Some report the nanoparticle by itself causes inflammation...which makes me wary.
whoooooops
loving being a pure blood
From memes into reality. Unvaccinated sperm will be the next bitcoin. LOL
I honestly cant even begin to imagine whats in store. this plus all the economic expermineting going on
I guess this also helps explain the 2 week depressed immune response, the body is still producing and trying to fight off spike well into 2 weeks on. Wasn't this supposed to not leave the area of the shoulder, period?
Yes, the manufacturers all stated that it stays in the site of injection, in the muscle of your shoulders.
And yes, it explain the further extensive immune depression that is fairly odd and I subscribed to the Spike itself.
They did a very thorough investigation up to 48 hours after injection and of course they were not concerned that LNP concentration increases in that 48 hours in multiple organs. Why would they? It's safe and effective because they say so.
Beside the joke what is described here was my main concern since the beginning. Even without testing I never believed that anyone can 100% guarantee that an injection stay on the injection site and that's it. LNPs going around randomly carrying mRNA codes who can guarantee me that another organ will not go haywire and start producing s-proteins. Absolutely not believable. Anyone could use common sense and understand that this was fairy tale sold by the marketing department.
Why would the presence of v-spike for 2 weeks cause a depressed immune response? I would think it would be an elevated immune response to fight the v-spike.
I always wondered what the mechanism was for the lower cd8 cells post-vax. Any ideas? The study indicates white blood cells are not expressing v-spike.
The Spike/RBD can interact with certain cells and after presentation it (for some reason nobody wants to investigate) it depresses the immune system, I thought it was merely the Spike but clearly this thing is being expressed, broken down, and eliciting all sorts of inflammatory responses and different types of cell death everywhere.
The lower CD8 cells is because of the heavy shift towards CD4, body always compensates, other mechanisms apply too, like the binding of certain protein/molecules to other proteins in our body.
people are lining up now to inject this in babies 💔 I can't believe people were parroting the "it won't leave the shoulder" talking point. That never made any sense, LOL
The evidence on how this thing is useless, and at this point, dangerous, is biblical, yet people insist on doing that to give Pfizer money. I am sad for the kids, will hope their bodies can heal, but outside that, can't do much.
Stupid does what stupid does.
Subscribed, thanks.
Oh for the day when you don’t need to lead with ‘COVID-19 mRNA vaccines effectively reduce incidence of severe disease, hospitalisation and death’ in order to get published.
One of the papers I find most pertinent and important, was retracted recently. I went to see why, the retraction letter literarily states it was retracted because the authors criticized the vaccine. It is the sole reason of the retraction LOL.
No bueno. I'm curious why the WBC detection stops after 6 days? WBC: "F it, we can't hold back the horde anymore. I quit!"
I love the sacred sacrament. "COVID-19 mRNA vaccines effectively reduce incidence of severe disease, hospitalisation and death." They should at least pretend to be honest and say "COVID-19 mRNA vaccines effectively reduce incidence of severe disease and hospitalisation from COVID-19." They may in fact, increase your net likelihood of hospitalization, and the trial did not demonstrate a mortality benefit.
There is a couple new studies that literally state exactly that, booster against Omicron, after merely weeks, increase your overall risk to everything. Severity, hospitalization and death, the younger you are, the higher the risk.
Either they write that, or they don't get published. One of the papers I find most important among all papers, was recently retracted, I went to see why, and the retraction letter literally states it was because the authors criticized the vaccination and it might be dangerous to use the Spike.
"prolonged antigenic stimulation may contribute to effective immune responses, especially the proliferation of memory T-cells".... You have to be f***ing kidding me! What cells do they think are going to be expressing the spike for then the memory T cells and immune system to produce an inflammatory response, and kill the cells expressing spike!?!!! (A sarcastic, exasperated question).
I just read the study, it sounds like they found the mRNA in the plasma of all 16 people people, which is a strong indicator that it's happening in all vaccinated people to some extent.
Thanks for getting this study out to us asap. 👍🏼👏🙏
It is happening to all vaccinated, it is because of the LNP, LNPs were designed to pierce everything without activating a immune or physiological response. They are stealth vectors basically.
Right, yeah.
Wow, that will lead to a "helluva lot" of spike protein.
Yes?
Depends how much is circulating. But you don't need a lot in the wrong places to cause nasty damage. That is the problem, it just circulates around.
Very small quantitates of SEB are enough to send someone into cytokine storm, for example.
I read a paper a while back that estimated the levels of spike vs actual disease.
They were talking trillions vs billions (?), we may need to revise that to the "quad" level.
Once again, LOL.
Insanity Rules.
"Do Not Comply"
I never found an accurate measurement of spike from the disease, but the vaccines have an accurate calculation, and it is roughly 800 billion.
I recall those other studies that showed that vaccine spike protein was in circulation for the 60 days post in which they only tested for , or was it the 4 months in the blood serum where the immunity seemed to also follow the same pattern as serum spike protein . But then there is the cell extraction where they found the mrna active in cells 60 days post vaccine , seemingly still actively making spike protein . So now this one is a bit different as it relates sorcficslly how long the injected substance floats around before permeating cells , and creating spike protein for up to yo 60 days or more, that then circulate in the blood for 4 months or more . I think I got that right
I think they hang out in the non-classical monocytes for a long time as well.
I wonder if that was the study where the mRNA was found in the lymph (in the germinal center)...
Is it my imagination or is impossible for any lab to fully test in detail what's in these injections?
It is an extensive endeavor that would take a lot of effort and honesty. Things Pfizer and Moderna lack.
Do you have any thought on Liposomal Vitamin C?
I'm seeing recommendations to take Liposomal Vit C as it allows achieving a higher dose in the blood stream rather than mostly oxidizing in the gut and (at high doses) giving you the runs. But as one can guess from the name, it is appears (to a layman) the same method for the same purpose as the Vax lipid nanoparticle. It protects the Vit C from break down to early and helps it pass through fat soluble membranes. Some report the nanoparticle by itself causes inflammation...which makes me wary.
I recommend liposomal C and any other vitamins if people can afford.
The way this is encapsulated is VERY different than the vaccines, one could argue the membrane in liposomal supplements is natural.
The one in the vaccines is pharmacological. You can take it without worries.