Ginko is one of the most ancient trees....it has remained unchanged for much longer than most trees....my 3rd grade leaf collection made a huge impression on me, because of one little ginko tree that I wondered about.
kudzu is an invasive species here in the states and I've never heard of anyone using it as an herbal remedy!! Fascinating! Is it a *make a tea/tincture* type situation or do people take it in pill form?
I don't know if most of my readers are aware, but my aunt developed ITP (Immune Thrombocytopenia) from the mRNA vaccine. I saw my cousin after years (her daugther) at my grandmother's birthday and commented some stuff.
To the surprised of no one with a functional brain that pays attention to what I write, my aunt was just diagnosed with active infection and antibody levels for *check notes
I just saw a post from Outraged Human today where he had pics and testimonies of people who got rashes and irritation from the jabs. Some looked like zona (shingles), which I think is a herpes virus. There were lots of them, and also a group of medical people who got irritations from a fallen and spilled vial
What’s interesting is that severity of infection was not correlated to persistence in the central nervous system. There are only two groups that are seeking “remedies” for themselves. Post Covid people who sense that something is “off” about themselves since recovering. And vaxxed people with injuries. But there is a large number of people that either got Covid or vax that say “I’m just fine. Same as always. No issues” and they are not supplementing or changing their diets etc. potentially they are risking suffering a silent killer that will sneak up on them because of a false sense of security.
This makes me ironically feel almost blessed that I’ve noticed immune system issues in my family (although we are suffering because of them) because at least it has led me to research what can be done to correct/thwart the damage done post Covid infections.
Why does melatonin seem like it’s Magic? Is there a down side to melatonin because I can’t seem to find one.
Also many of these studies it was dosed intravenously. Supplements are not that direct...wondering if we all could get what we need via iv route if we could expedite our results.
Because it is a "primordial" biochemical basically, a lot of our most important cells, especially the mitochondria have melatonin receptors, melatonin has a lot of singular properties. Singular as in others have but it has all those properties in one substance. Doris Loh is THE BEST resource when it comes to melatonin.
As I wrote many. Many, many times I have severe problem with bioavailability studies, yes IV is superior, but the pill is effective especially at high doses. Children should NOT take melatonin, only adults.
I had been giving it to my boys... going to stop that now. Hormone changes.... not good. Hope stopping is enough. Hoping I didn’t do any permanent damage. 😩
A few mg is enough, don't high dose it on anyone younger than 18. There is no permanent damage with melatonin, there is no scientific evidence for damage of any kind on using melatonin for long period or in high doses in adults. It is just my preference/opinion.
Unless they have some inflammatory condition but even then, small dosages, not like I recommend for adults.
I have found no evidence towards it, tried to find sources and all but mostly theoretical. Like supplementing testosterone will affect your production for life line of thinking, which testosterone is real, melatonin I may argue it may not. My pineal gland is a diamond at this point if it is real though 🤣
As Paul said in his reply, there is no credible evidence that it actually disregulates any hormones. Someone I follow on youtube, who is well-informed reviewed Huberman's recommendations from the company he endorses, because he endorses some sleep formula instead of melatonin, and the supplements is that formula have way less evidence than melatonin and are much more expensive. Something to consider...
Could the long term viral persistence in cns be possible factor in cognitive deficits people are reporting? I personally feel concentration deficits that seem to come and go that I never had prior to covid. It's subtle and manageable but definitely something.
Yes, either viral or viral fragment persistence will elicit enough inflammatory response to cause low grade inflammation long term and initiate... well choose a path that you "prefer".
I feel exactly the same but since I have more issues than most people I supplement more aggressively, if you observe people at random you will start to see this decline at large, minimal put perceptible levels.
What I wonder is, what exactly is meant by "infected the primates"... If they did not spray them with aerosols mimicking realistic natural infection, but rather used some more convenient method, I wonder how much those findings in brain tissue apply to naturally infected primates/humans, esp. in cases with mild disease in healthy individuals, where, presumably, the "action" largely happens on the respiratory tract's mucous membranes?
Some were sprayed by the author's own words. Also given how Omicron lineage replicates (between 16-23 R0) one would expect, at some level, there is a little bit of viruses in the CNS of everyone, but arguably most people's immune systems are dealing with it.
The fact the viruses can use the nerves to travel plays a significant role in this. Everyone I saw infected with Omicron here was symptomatic, jabber and non alike
I wonder why I (apparently) still haven't got any C19 whatsoever. Last year I had one cold thingy fitting in my usual "3 days runny nose every 2 years" pattern and several rapid tests were negative, incl. @ peak symptoms. The only irregularity was my likely self-inflicted bacterial throat infection end of last year, confirmed by lab test.
As usual, hardly any or no lung involvement that I could notice.
Some of my strongly jabbed colleagues who had Omicron >= 1 times, they are deeply coughing uip mucus for months now...
I'd really like to forward some info about stuff like Nattokinase to them, but if it's not recommoned from the officials, it's suspect, or pseudoscience (favorite accusation of Skeptics(TM)) ... *sigh*
Perhaps you have optimal immune function, very strong NK/CD8 cells, or you are in the small percentage of people who have "superantibodies" against Covid, that are so potent you just never got infected. The (biological) rule of thumb perhaps apply here, 5% of the human race is always completely immune to "something", basically evolution way of assuring some of us survive clataclismic events I guess.
I have been there in 2021, to the point I gave up. Take if you want, don't if you don't just don't annoy me has been my instance for 2 years now, just can't waste that energy anymore.
I have this odd condition of basically always having a slightly irritated throat, and it's connected to "stuff in the air" (can be mold on citrus fruit, or tobacco smoke in minimal traces, glossy paper books, that amps it up in seconds, from latent to very noticeable), except for maybe 2 hours in the evening (where I can practise singing). It's supposedly not allergy w.r.t. markers in the blood, from a sample taken when throat camera showed irritation 5 min earlier.
Now this over-irritablity is probably not exactly specific to viruses, could this still give an edge, a blunt one, as it were? I guess it would be a somewhat fair compensation for the grief it otherwise gives me, lol.
This is a mildly controversial conversation on immunology, well, medicine as a role, where certain immune responses will directly oppose and "protect" you from other pathogens, it goes beyond viral interference, it literally opposite keeping each other in check.
Perhpaps you find yourself in a weird state where your light "allergies" protected you from Covid by modulating inflammation and many receptors.
So your final assessment is correct from my perspective, but again, I am an outlier when it comes to all of this, I look everything from a weird perspective.
My mom, a heavy smoker, diabetic, also avoided all covid strains until one of the Omicron ones, and it was, literally, just a sneeze for 6 hours. Genetics, especially mitochondrial, are hella of a hand in the balance.
All the best, and thanks for reading me for so long =).
"Third, the mRNA-LNP is picked up by bacteria, and integrated and bacteria continuously produce the Spike Protein. "
That seems to be an hypothesis that can be tested easily. Just treat the people who still have lots of spike protein with antibiotics. Thereby kill all bacteria in the gut, then repopulate the gut with normal gut bacteria that do not produce spike protein.
Biofilms. The spike, therefore the virus can penetrate biofilms, and hypothetically forms reservoirs inside, so if they can do it, they can evade complete clearance. One of the hardest aspects to deal and test with this, easily could be disregarded if not tested properly.
Is it worrisome that big pharma bought up a lot of the supplement industry? Like would they try poison us that way too? Hard to know what brands are good when shopping on amazon for us normies
Help me out here, you don't believe modRNA can achieve PP-Spike DNA integration by reverse transcription, but rather persists and replicates via bacteria on organs and nerves?
Reverse transcription might happen at a lower level in some people, unless new evidence with proper design is presented to me.
I am prone to accept integration in bacteria and continuous production.
That is for the mRNA. For the virus I think it can stay in the nerves and elsewhere producing inflammation. Like a latent virus itself.
All are a problem, persistent spike and the virus hanging anywhere inside us. To what level the virus stay inside us though ? That ia the next big question.
"Herbs that upregulate ACE-2, increasing its levels in the body, are
Pueria spp (kudzu), Salvia miltiorrhiza (Dan shen), and Ginkgo biloba]. ACE
inhibitors (in contrast to ACE-2 upregulators) will actually increase the presence
of ACE-2 and help protect the lungs from injury [ Some herbs that do that are
Crataegus spp (hawthorn) and Pueraria spp (kudzu"
https://www.stephenharrodbuhner.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/coronavirus.txt.pdf
Heeeey Ginkgo Biloba a favorite of mine. Piracetam best friend. Good to now and thank you. Herbs are not my forte.
Ginko is one of the most ancient trees....it has remained unchanged for much longer than most trees....my 3rd grade leaf collection made a huge impression on me, because of one little ginko tree that I wondered about.
Crataegus has long been used to strengthen the heart. As for kudzu, there is plenty of it!
kudzu is an invasive species here in the states and I've never heard of anyone using it as an herbal remedy!! Fascinating! Is it a *make a tea/tincture* type situation or do people take it in pill form?
I don't know if most of my readers are aware, but my aunt developed ITP (Immune Thrombocytopenia) from the mRNA vaccine. I saw my cousin after years (her daugther) at my grandmother's birthday and commented some stuff.
To the surprised of no one with a functional brain that pays attention to what I write, my aunt was just diagnosed with active infection and antibody levels for *check notes
A HERPES VIRUS.
Have a great weekend everyone.
I just saw a post from Outraged Human today where he had pics and testimonies of people who got rashes and irritation from the jabs. Some looked like zona (shingles), which I think is a herpes virus. There were lots of them, and also a group of medical people who got irritations from a fallen and spilled vial
Yes it is, and it can do damage long term too, which has been my argument for quite a while.
All this is now a long term thing, in implication to the possible damage.
No
What’s interesting is that severity of infection was not correlated to persistence in the central nervous system. There are only two groups that are seeking “remedies” for themselves. Post Covid people who sense that something is “off” about themselves since recovering. And vaxxed people with injuries. But there is a large number of people that either got Covid or vax that say “I’m just fine. Same as always. No issues” and they are not supplementing or changing their diets etc. potentially they are risking suffering a silent killer that will sneak up on them because of a false sense of security.
This makes me ironically feel almost blessed that I’ve noticed immune system issues in my family (although we are suffering because of them) because at least it has led me to research what can be done to correct/thwart the damage done post Covid infections.
Why does melatonin seem like it’s Magic? Is there a down side to melatonin because I can’t seem to find one.
Also many of these studies it was dosed intravenously. Supplements are not that direct...wondering if we all could get what we need via iv route if we could expedite our results.
Because it is a "primordial" biochemical basically, a lot of our most important cells, especially the mitochondria have melatonin receptors, melatonin has a lot of singular properties. Singular as in others have but it has all those properties in one substance. Doris Loh is THE BEST resource when it comes to melatonin.
As I wrote many. Many, many times I have severe problem with bioavailability studies, yes IV is superior, but the pill is effective especially at high doses. Children should NOT take melatonin, only adults.
I had been giving it to my boys... going to stop that now. Hormone changes.... not good. Hope stopping is enough. Hoping I didn’t do any permanent damage. 😩
A few mg is enough, don't high dose it on anyone younger than 18. There is no permanent damage with melatonin, there is no scientific evidence for damage of any kind on using melatonin for long period or in high doses in adults. It is just my preference/opinion.
Unless they have some inflammatory condition but even then, small dosages, not like I recommend for adults.
I heard claims of possible atrophy of the gland that produces melatonin (pineal) from prolonged external supply, but haven't searched for sources
I have found no evidence towards it, tried to find sources and all but mostly theoretical. Like supplementing testosterone will affect your production for life line of thinking, which testosterone is real, melatonin I may argue it may not. My pineal gland is a diamond at this point if it is real though 🤣
Dr Huberman on youtube suggests not to supplement with melatonin; a bit of a conflict for me as I take high dose based on work of Dr Shallenberger.
As Paul said in his reply, there is no credible evidence that it actually disregulates any hormones. Someone I follow on youtube, who is well-informed reviewed Huberman's recommendations from the company he endorses, because he endorses some sleep formula instead of melatonin, and the supplements is that formula have way less evidence than melatonin and are much more expensive. Something to consider...
Could the long term viral persistence in cns be possible factor in cognitive deficits people are reporting? I personally feel concentration deficits that seem to come and go that I never had prior to covid. It's subtle and manageable but definitely something.
Yes, either viral or viral fragment persistence will elicit enough inflammatory response to cause low grade inflammation long term and initiate... well choose a path that you "prefer".
I feel exactly the same but since I have more issues than most people I supplement more aggressively, if you observe people at random you will start to see this decline at large, minimal put perceptible levels.
nAChRs holds a lot of secrets... fantastic stuff John Paul!
They do, they've become a large interest of mine, the cholinergic system controls so much all around the body.
Sorry for the late reply, lots of e-mails and middle of nowhere so I got lost in the messages.
i never gave ut so much importance (knew of course), only after last infection, had to search on that direction and then ,Voila!!
I know you get too many mails, messages etc! reply anytime is good enough....its a long fight, nothing will happen in a day or two ;)
Excellent stack.
Curious how this applies to the viral vector vaccines? Same mechanism?
Thank you.
Different pathways and and some mechanisms may different, but the end result is always the same.
What I wonder is, what exactly is meant by "infected the primates"... If they did not spray them with aerosols mimicking realistic natural infection, but rather used some more convenient method, I wonder how much those findings in brain tissue apply to naturally infected primates/humans, esp. in cases with mild disease in healthy individuals, where, presumably, the "action" largely happens on the respiratory tract's mucous membranes?
Some were sprayed by the author's own words. Also given how Omicron lineage replicates (between 16-23 R0) one would expect, at some level, there is a little bit of viruses in the CNS of everyone, but arguably most people's immune systems are dealing with it.
The fact the viruses can use the nerves to travel plays a significant role in this. Everyone I saw infected with Omicron here was symptomatic, jabber and non alike
I wonder why I (apparently) still haven't got any C19 whatsoever. Last year I had one cold thingy fitting in my usual "3 days runny nose every 2 years" pattern and several rapid tests were negative, incl. @ peak symptoms. The only irregularity was my likely self-inflicted bacterial throat infection end of last year, confirmed by lab test.
As usual, hardly any or no lung involvement that I could notice.
Some of my strongly jabbed colleagues who had Omicron >= 1 times, they are deeply coughing uip mucus for months now...
I'd really like to forward some info about stuff like Nattokinase to them, but if it's not recommoned from the officials, it's suspect, or pseudoscience (favorite accusation of Skeptics(TM)) ... *sigh*
Perhaps you have optimal immune function, very strong NK/CD8 cells, or you are in the small percentage of people who have "superantibodies" against Covid, that are so potent you just never got infected. The (biological) rule of thumb perhaps apply here, 5% of the human race is always completely immune to "something", basically evolution way of assuring some of us survive clataclismic events I guess.
I have been there in 2021, to the point I gave up. Take if you want, don't if you don't just don't annoy me has been my instance for 2 years now, just can't waste that energy anymore.
Hmmm, "optimal" immune function, eh...
I have this odd condition of basically always having a slightly irritated throat, and it's connected to "stuff in the air" (can be mold on citrus fruit, or tobacco smoke in minimal traces, glossy paper books, that amps it up in seconds, from latent to very noticeable), except for maybe 2 hours in the evening (where I can practise singing). It's supposedly not allergy w.r.t. markers in the blood, from a sample taken when throat camera showed irritation 5 min earlier.
Now this over-irritablity is probably not exactly specific to viruses, could this still give an edge, a blunt one, as it were? I guess it would be a somewhat fair compensation for the grief it otherwise gives me, lol.
This is a mildly controversial conversation on immunology, well, medicine as a role, where certain immune responses will directly oppose and "protect" you from other pathogens, it goes beyond viral interference, it literally opposite keeping each other in check.
Perhpaps you find yourself in a weird state where your light "allergies" protected you from Covid by modulating inflammation and many receptors.
So your final assessment is correct from my perspective, but again, I am an outlier when it comes to all of this, I look everything from a weird perspective.
My mom, a heavy smoker, diabetic, also avoided all covid strains until one of the Omicron ones, and it was, literally, just a sneeze for 6 hours. Genetics, especially mitochondrial, are hella of a hand in the balance.
All the best, and thanks for reading me for so long =).
John Paul - In this regard, https://youtu.be/DlnOcZK892E? Your standing at ground zero and in fact you might as well be... https://youtu.be/LQj--Kjn0z8? Mr. Mulder.
"Third, the mRNA-LNP is picked up by bacteria, and integrated and bacteria continuously produce the Spike Protein. "
That seems to be an hypothesis that can be tested easily. Just treat the people who still have lots of spike protein with antibiotics. Thereby kill all bacteria in the gut, then repopulate the gut with normal gut bacteria that do not produce spike protein.
Sounds easy. Why hasn't anyone done it?
Biofilms. The spike, therefore the virus can penetrate biofilms, and hypothetically forms reservoirs inside, so if they can do it, they can evade complete clearance. One of the hardest aspects to deal and test with this, easily could be disregarded if not tested properly.
Thanks JP.
Is it worrisome that big pharma bought up a lot of the supplement industry? Like would they try poison us that way too? Hard to know what brands are good when shopping on amazon for us normies
If we are talking first world 90% of your supplements come from China and India.
I rely on mercola.com, don't see him selling out.
Help me out here, you don't believe modRNA can achieve PP-Spike DNA integration by reverse transcription, but rather persists and replicates via bacteria on organs and nerves?
Reverse transcription might happen at a lower level in some people, unless new evidence with proper design is presented to me.
I am prone to accept integration in bacteria and continuous production.
That is for the mRNA. For the virus I think it can stay in the nerves and elsewhere producing inflammation. Like a latent virus itself.
All are a problem, persistent spike and the virus hanging anywhere inside us. To what level the virus stay inside us though ? That ia the next big question.
What kind of SARS-CoV-2 mRNA was found in the pericytes of monkeys? No word about it in the study? Figure 1H.
Sadly no word, similar to the first study, it is more like a correspondence than a published paper with all data, will update it when they publish it.
How long does it stay AND how to get rid of it faster!