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jt's avatar

Is it possible to estimate what the effect of this immune tolerance will be on people who don't treat it? Will they just often get sick, and maybe die a few years earlier? Or will they probably pass away in 5-10 years or less (like in the SARS vaccine studies on mice in which all the mice died from AED)?

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Moriarty's avatar

Had an emergy so, sorry for taking long to reply.

Use the search feature and look up the term in my substack Inflammaging, that is pretty much it, toleranting the virus will lead to a long-term surpressed immune system, at the point the cells will become "too tired" (anergic the correct term) to fight stuff. So yeah, they will lose years of life plus bound to chronic disease.

There will be no ADE as far as I am aware as of TODAY, who knows about the future, but from all the >current< evidence, no ADE bro/sis.

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Kevin's avatar

FWIW I have found your recommendations to be very helpful so thanks!

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Kevin's avatar

I should add that you were way ahead of the curve in recommending NAC!

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Bibi's avatar

And Nanno+ Serra And NAC + Glycine

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Moriarty's avatar

Thank you, I like the feedback because it means it is working for a broader amount of people than I previously thought. Hope it keeps being helpful for a long time.

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DoorlessCarp🐭's avatar

This will also contribute to a surge in breast cancers due to latent viruses competing for a precursor required to synthesise a tumor suppressor. Downstream effects can quickly escalate.

How latent viruses cause breast cancer: An explanation based on the microcompetition model

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6716096/#__ffn_sectitle

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Sally Gould's avatar

 Thank you so much, Doorless Carp!

Totally new information for me!!  I had no idea that the BRCA  repair gene mutation rates were actually so small.  All of this time, I thought that the numbers of mutations were very large and causative in breast cancer and other cancers.

Ages ago, James Lawson, who is very kind and communicated with me, was working on the association between the mouse tumor virus (don't tell Jikky, the mouse). and the bovine leukemia virus.  I even know a breast cancer patient who told me that there was a mouse in the walls of her house!

Here is a Lawson study, from five years ago, and the conclusion:  " The influence of oncogenic viruses is currently the major plausible hypothesis for a direct cause of human breast cancer." 

Front Oncol. 2018 Jan 22;8:1. doi: 10.3389/fonc.2018.00001. eCollection 2018.Oncogenic Viruses and Breast Cancer: Mouse Mammary Tumor Virus (MMTV), Bovine Leukemia Virus (BLV), Human Papilloma Virus (HPV), and Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV)

THANK YOU, DOORLESS CARP AND JOHN PAUL, FOR ALL OF YOUR FANTASTIC RESEARCH!

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Samantha Gluck's avatar

Wow, Doorless! Thank you for sharing.

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Moriarty's avatar

Thank you for the complement.

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