21 Comments
User's avatar
Joe's avatar

Thanks for covering this. There seems to be some disagreement about whether the vaccinated A) can't build immunity to the N protein when they get in contact with the virus, or B) don't need to. Any thoughts on that?

BTW, great line: "At the very least their work should be heavily scrutinized for the rest of their pathetic lives"...here's to hoping.

Expand full comment
Moriarty's avatar

They need to, the evidence is there, otherwise they take longer to clear the virus (they game the testing in almost every paper). More time to clear the virus= more inflammation, also the non-neutralizing antibodies will push the viral evolution further.

Well, at least in my opinion. By the paper alone, some CAN build some immunity to the N protein, while most can't. I think life style, diet will influence that (many paper on that alone, how the diet affects the immunity from the vaccines).

Expand full comment
Edwin's avatar

Dietary input is always great, probably one of the most lacking of subjects, but one that affects everybody! I always recommended certain patients spend time with the local dietician's classes. She had the best looking plastic food you ever saw!

Expand full comment
Moriarty's avatar

There is a lot of disagreement between diet style, what works, what doesn't, etc. I do think a lower carbohydrate diet would benefit most people, unless you are super physically active. And people consume too little protein these days.

Expand full comment
CaliforniaLost's avatar

"...do not forget, or forgive the people who pushed these lies. At the very least their work should be heavily scrutinized for the rest of their pathetic lives."

And yet, Fraudci is still out peddling his snake oil.

Expand full comment
Moriarty's avatar

Fauci is a political actor with a lot of power...somehow. He will vanish in the shadows, that is the most likely outcome.

Expand full comment
CaliforniaLost's avatar

I was surprised he was still alive/working when I saw him with Trump at the start of the covid-19 scare scarefest. I grew up in the Bay Area and saw firsthand what Fauci did to the gay community with AIDS, I knew we were screwed with his "help". I've always thought the NIH was a civilian front for DoD, maybe.

Expand full comment
Edwin's avatar

I told you these "short ones" would be a great idea.

Nobody is going to be critical of you thinking things through, clueing us in to your investigations, or even eliciting feedback from readers, other writers, health professionals, or any other interested parties.

Some of the best conversations we have seen have been Steve, Monica, Matthew, Igor, among others commenting on different writer's posts and/or articles.

We don't need the Marxist division here!

Expand full comment
Moriarty's avatar

I do like do write the complex, big ones. It is how my mind works, but maybe breaking down now, and then might help people understand better. Thanks for the idea !

Expand full comment
Edwin's avatar

I think you will excel at both.

Expand full comment
John (jc) Comeau's avatar

Just a note on fonts/colors: on Linux/Chromium, the snippets from your linked articles are in an unreadable light blue on gray. Haven't tried in another browser. That's just the text, the headlines are in bold white text and quite readable.

Expand full comment
Moriarty's avatar

Going to change the theme, last theme literally hurt the eyes of some.

Expand full comment
Flirtcheap's avatar

Same for me on Windows/Chrome, links to other substack posts when imbedded are near unreadable. It doesn't affect this post since the author describes what they are about, but definitely something to be aware of as the previews are essentially useless.

Expand full comment
Edwin's avatar

macOS Monterey Version 12.3.1 here, Safari 15.4, same.

Expand full comment
Moriarty's avatar

I changed it, at least here, everything is readable. Someone test and tell me please.

Expand full comment
Kirsten's avatar

Good here on my Android phone.

Expand full comment
Edwin's avatar

It is great!

Expand full comment
Jim Foye's avatar

I would love to get some kind of an update on Israel. I wonder what the general mood is over there right now.

Expand full comment
Moriarty's avatar

There are some Twitter account that follow Israel closely, last news I saw, they were removing mask mandates, and some other mandates, and Israelis were celebrating the "victory".

Expand full comment
Erik Petersen's avatar

Hadn't seen the Savit study as of yet.

Couple things:

1) for the control group of previously infected - was that with the Delta variant?

2) what about vaccinated individuals who have also been previously infected, how does their risk of reinfection compared to previously infected (unvaccinated)?

I think (2) is important as we need data on whether immune imprinting is playing a role in an individual's ability to mount a full immune response.

Expand full comment
Moriarty's avatar

Yes, they used only people previously infected with Delta.

2 is a point discontention among many scientists, doctors, and other individuals, some say the general data clearly shows there is strong immune imprinting (AOS) going on, and about the point of previously infected, and risk of reinfection, the vaccine "wipes" your immune memory, and your immune system will only recognize the spike.

Given the amount of data you can find in social media of 2, 3 reinfections, with a sizable portion (up to 30% by my calculations), being previously infected before getting the vaccine, clearly is true to some extent. Diet, life style, inflammation levels will also play a major role IMO.

My own mom barely got anything the two infections. Once with Delta (before the Pfizer vaccine), second was Omicron, with one Pfizer shot, she won't take it anymore (thank God).

Expand full comment