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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

This occurred to me recently after I saw a video of two Chinese student at a California Univ, discussing in broken English how to create self assembling nano-particles. No one is in charge of any of this, and there are millions upon millions of people experimenting.

Science has no more ethics or morals. There is only the tech. The tech is the ethic and the moral. It it can be done it is just. Which is to say - these people are sociopathic and insane.

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Moriarty's avatar

I for one welcome this change, because as you know, I am brazillian, and not rich (I don't think I am even middle class ? Lol), without the democratization of knowledge the internet brought, and how accessible synthetic biology is being made, we would be back at the Rockerfellers days, where THEY dictate the direction of science and medicine itself.

At least now we have degrees of a fighting chance from my perspective.

I have done worse with less than self-assembling nano-particles. Necessity truly is the mother of all inventions. To your moral and ethics point.

"A man only knows how far he can go when he goes too far" is the moto of many nerds.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

I wonder which future we are headed to next; the video game HELL future above, the Dune-esque future where there is a jihad against thinking machines, Charlton Heston's Planet of the Apes future. Regardless, I think that nerds with a desire to play God are going to cause so many unintended DNA consequences that within 200 years, all of humanity will be altered beyond our current comprehension.

God have mercy on our souls, we are all screwed.

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Moriarty's avatar

See my comment to William. I do see these changes as positve , because we finally have a fighting chance, against the same people that are inducing everything we are going through. Before they dictated the rules and everything else.

But yes, I do think, at different levels, what the video game video depicted will be a reality. There are now dozens of BSL4 labs being built all over the world by many governments, we are bound to more labotarory leaks by mathematical odds alone.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

I love your substack, and agree on all of the amazing coincidences we are having, but I don't think there have been accidental leaks of viruses, just "opportunities" to sell, sell, sell them vaxx.

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Bibi's avatar

So...this is how New Age of Mass Murdering begins. Anyone with 100k + could potentially create a bioweapon, release it and not be prosecuted. We witnessed London Stock Exchange breach of Trust, International Law has been liquid construct for decades serving US agenda ...so effectively...we live in a very wobbly word belonging to a few but being destructed by many....and potentially many more in future. Which brings me to peptides....do you think there might be a possibility of a "universal cure" like "reset DNA" Peptide "button....something we could "cook up" in our kitchens to keep us safe from synthetic Viruses? Something like a "reset" button for healthy human code...we can prepare in our kitchens from peptides or a few other things...?

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Moriarty's avatar

Not one peptide, but yes, peptides and custom proteins will play a major role, these technologies are both dual-use. You can do much good, and much harm, at least it is "democratic" in which anyone willing can have access.

Also no, peptides are really hard to manipulate and produce, so we wouldn't be able to produce "in our kitchens or garages" for that matter, but it could be scale up with some creative thinking and some money.

A couple of the peptides I just posted are enough to keep as in (almost) perfect health for the foresseble future.

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Bibi's avatar

Reading your posts feels soothing. There is certain “gentleness” in your writing, how you go about revealing your insights, the “darkness” of what is emerging as a statistical probability. …as if you care how your words will reverberate through your readers lives long after they click off your page on Substack. Thank you for generously sharing your knowledge, insights and thinking.

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Moriarty's avatar

Thank you for your kind words Bibi, maybe Substack doesn't like kind messages because this was in my spam folder.

Yes I do care about how the words will impact people's mind, you will understand it better when I publish my Cognitive Warfare piece. And why I abstain myself from opinion most of the time.

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Bibi's avatar

Yep I noticed that. It is so easy to manipulate humans by harnessing the power of defaults, reducing the hassle factor aka thinking with the higher brain outside amygdala. Simplifying messages. Use loss aversion framing when describing sanctions,show that most people perform the desired behaviour, use power of networks,prompt people when they are likely to be receptive, consider the immediate costs and benefits, help people respond to events, attract attention, design rewards and sanctions...really easy. Sadly, most people are not ethical.

On another note, as my messages seem to go to spam I hope my donations dont get lost in substack world. Would be nice to know they do come to you.

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Moriarty's avatar

Have you ever read Rene Girard, Bibi ? It is one of my biggest "intellectual/philosophical" influences, and in that regard it does explain a lot of human behavior and the dynamics you just describe. You add his work, with some unorthodox linguistics approach and you get quite a few insights.

Natural Language Processing is also another dangerous technology widely applied unknown to many.

Only the previous message was sent to spam, every other commentary you ever made go directly to the inbox, and your donations didn't get lost and I appreciate the support, without it I wouldn't be able to do this, really.

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Bibi's avatar

Oh great! I did not want to mention it just was worried if they diddnt let the$ come to you. Yes I am"deeply" familiar with everything you referenced and then some. Every government department in Australia is implementing Behavioral Economics communication tacticts to manipulate "nudge" human behaviour in ways people, unless trained and willing, have no way of "protecting" themselves.

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Ozgirl's avatar

Just learnt that Australia’s is going to roll out world first MRNA for hand foot & mouth disease in cattle. We don’t have that disease here at all but have found meat products imported China that do, and Indonesia currently has a outbreak that they are concerned will reach our shores. This is a massive gamble & I think it will end badly. Our cows are pretty much disease free, but not for long I fear. Might have to give up meat & dairy.. I have had enough of the experimental stuff now.🙄

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Moriarty's avatar

Yes, they have been aiming to do that globally though, Australia is just slightly ahead of the mass animal mRNA vaccination campaigns, basically tainting almost any meat source in the planet.

Ending badly is the desired outcome of a sizable portion of the global elites and many corporations with vast economical interest in synthetic food.

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Matt Dwyer's avatar

Safe thing to do would be to stock pile so you can ring vaccinate against an outbreak.

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skylover's avatar

Kind of...Squid game.....the super riches getting bored...

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Moriarty's avatar

I don't think so, now "almost anyone" has access to these technologies, there is a massive democratization of synthetic biology going on, and portions of the elites are terrified that anyone mildly intelligent will have access to it, that is why they want to lower the IQ of the global population by any means, food being the primary.

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skylover's avatar

True, thats also there...so many outbreaks of various diseases everywhere, have you seen the conjunctivitis outbreak in Mumbai ,India? seems bad and spreads really fast...

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Moriarty's avatar

I missed that one, but there are so many outbreaks going on I am missing a bunch of them lately, literally too many to keep track, some are minor things, but the cholera ones for example, a growing and worrisome trends.

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Soujourner's avatar

This excellent piece sent me down two deep rabbit holes that added an extra hour to the read. But first let me thank you for the broad smile that crossed my face when I read the clever intro to Ralph.

1. DIY CRISPR kits...what a deep rabbit hole this turned out to be. Some dark stuff there.

2. Looks like a great series that I just purchased from Amazon. TY

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Vxi7's avatar

Fringe is the kind of modern day X-files right?

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Moriarty's avatar

It is considered a modern interation yes, but is solely focused on science.

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