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David Vicknair's avatar

NAC... I should have known. My 94 year old mother resides in an independent living community (yes, she is amazing). One of her friends takes (at least) a couple of extra strength Tylenol daily for her arthritis pain. When I found out, I recommended that her friend take 600 mg of NAC with her Tylenol and gave her some links to read. Her son is checking it out.

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Moriarty's avatar

The older you are, the more you naturally need certain nutrients, NAC, Melatonin, Creatine and protein being one. In this case, older people thrive on whey protein because it is super-easy for the body to absorb (that is the problem with older age, not exactly eating tons of animal protein, but absorbing it).

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justaboutenough's avatar

Is it best to take NAC at the same time as Tylenol, or somewhat before or after?

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Moriarty's avatar

After.

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Moon Diamond's avatar

I can’t take NAC. It gives me tightness of chest, like I have severe asthma or something.

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Moriarty's avatar

That is why I gave other options. Have you tried NAC with food ?

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Moon Diamond's avatar

Of course I ate it with food!

I think the better option is Kyolic garlic pills. Garlic is a natural source of NAC, but it’s balanced with other sulfur compounds. I heard it could be a nitric oxide problem or something that causes this effect.

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Moriarty's avatar

Have you tried glutathione itself and not NAC ?

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Moon Diamond's avatar

Glutathione was included in the Kyolic supplement I tried. No complaints there. It didn’t really solve my problem that I got it for - nerve pains - but I later found out that was caused by mycotoxins from the moldy food in my room. After I finally cleaned my room it went away for good.

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Michelle Boivin's avatar

Thank you! Here in Southern Ontario, people have been reporting a brown residue on their cars from the rain in the past week. I really appreciate this information to share with my friends.

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SableNixe's avatar

Always ahead of the curve, as per usual.

I am currently reading The Healing Nutrients Within (Braverman/Pfeiffer), and they elaborate on pg. 100 that cysteine/Glutathione may have some promising effects against neutralizing these dioxins as well.

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Bibi's avatar

Thank you.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

NAC is a game changer.

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Moriarty's avatar

It was for me when I found it years ago, it is so useful.

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mejbcart's avatar

Thank you for this great help for MANY right now!

I'd only add this to it one question. Given the dioxin 3D structure:

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/dioxin/dioxin-hp.htm

do you know of any resources connecting the somewhat similar (3 hexagonal rings with different atoms occupying the side groups) in terms of molecular mimicry, structure of it with flavin??? Could flavin somewhat affect the dioxin? Was able to find only one article which implicates actually combined positive interaction:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35448550/

in contrary to my expectations....

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Moriarty's avatar

No I don't, someone well-versed on chemistry and hazardous materials might.

Any exogenous "non-natural" substance will activate the same receptor, with pretty close similar inflammatory response, which was one side of what I proposed here.

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mejbcart's avatar

thanks for the response and sorry for being impatient.

I actually meant the natural flavonoids or their derivatives..

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Moriarty's avatar

Only if the natural flavonoids are directly acting in the liver, acting or binding in the chemical (unnatural) structure of a dioxin would mean they also can engage AhRs and elicit a (similar) inflammatory response.

FMO3 (the enzyme in the paper you linked) is also a liver enzyme, so in a way all boils down to protecting the liver, in a simplistic manner. Even the supplements that "clean" dioxins all have to do with ROS and the liver.

There must be a chemical bond mechanism many are missing or I lack the knowledge to use proper search query and find it.

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mejbcart's avatar

thank you . These days even VitC can be introduced in liposomal form, so Riboflavin, (the main chicken link in this criminal plot in my opinion) could be equally reformulated the same way...

Just looking into the dioxin issue, something like this:

"Theoretical study of binding of metal-doped graphene sheet and carbon nanotubes with dioxin" or this "Functionalized Graphene Quantum Dots Modified Dioxin-Linked Covalent Organic Frameworks for Superior Lithium Storage" or this "Dioxin sensing properties of graphene and hexagonal boron nitride based van der Waals solids: a first-principles study" kind of points into something distrubing, assuming graphene was indeed added to the covid injections.

Just speculating a LOT here, given so many coincidences.

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Moriarty's avatar

Not only the chemical but the overall structure of the exogenous compound would impact how dioxins interact with any graphene-based structure. Also graphene (oxide, or not) will be degraded overtime by our antioxidant system (thiols playing a major role in breaking the bond of a lot of molecules).

I did just found this on Graphene, which points towards the same initial culprit, AhR. Any foreigner substance that doesn't "look" organic for our bodies will set off this receptor a lot, so limiting the damage seems like the easiest stratategy at least in such short notice.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41565-022-01260-8

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mejbcart's avatar

what is also intriguing the work on graphene in connection with dioxin proceeded the Nobel prize in 2010 by quite a period, with publications on it as early as 2004...

From Ecotoxicology book. example about dioxin..., quote "The chance of a chick dying during the 48 days after hatching due to these Ahr-mediated toxicants is 1 in 10."

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mejbcart's avatar

pity that the author desptie of the very few comments does not respond to questions....

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Moriarty's avatar

On average, on substack alone I get 50 e-mails PER DAY, plus DMs on Twitter. I take long to reply, and sometimes I don't by the sheer amount of messages I get.

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Moriarty's avatar

Not a problem, forget the graphene thing, it was mostly a psy-op, or a grift, whatever you prefer.

Dioxins in and on itself are a problem, and you could argue the immune/inflammatory response of the jab too.

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Kmg's avatar

JP, the symptoms of dioxin poisoning (cancer, infertility, metabolic, cardiac and hormonal disorders) which takes years to manifest, sound an awful lot like side effects from the jab (and the natural infection).

Was the “controlled” burn of the vinyl chloride used to have a cover story for jab side effects? And a potential land grab? (Like killing two birds with one stone)

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Elchavodel8's avatar

I John Paul. Thank you. Would you buy any chance know how to accelerate/help the decomposition of NAC to diNAC? I haven't been able to find info on that.

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Moriarty's avatar

No clue how to accelerate the process besides just letting the powder getting old. It has to be the powder, the capsule will take much longer.

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Elchavodel8's avatar

Thank you!

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NanaW's avatar

Very helpful and much appreciated. Thank you once again for your thoughtful advice. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. It’s stressful wondering how far this toxic stew they created with their explosive “fix” may drift in the air and come down in rain or snow, or seep into water supplies feeding off into many other states. I too have Hashimoto’s Disease, but I plan on taking a reduced dose of the chlorella for a few months just to be proactive.

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Mehen's avatar

I read that Chorella can contain many heavy metals (iron perhaps?)

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Moriarty's avatar

Depends on the source, it contains a lot of nutrients, but it might contain heavy metals from contaminated sources.

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pchelovod's avatar

Thanks for the practical suggestions. Have never paid much attention to chlorella. The first study I found on chlorella/dioxin fed the rats a diet of 10% chlorella, which makes me wonder if even a few grams will make much practical difference. Any thought? Thanks.

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Moriarty's avatar

It will, just takes longer, any natural substance will just take longer, even at higher (but held by common sense) dosages.

I would very much like to see how these respond to very high doses of melatonin, but this isn't for everybody.

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CP's avatar

Since chlorella is a seaweed I’m assuming it has a high iodine content so, if you are on a low iodine diet because you have Hashimotos I wouldn’t take this. Maybe I’m wrong??

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Moriarty's avatar

On the contrary, it can help certain Thyroid conditions, but it is very situational, I would rather deal with a flare-up of a thyroid condition, rather than having one, not taking anything, and the dioxin further causing havoc around, but each person should decide for themselves.

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