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Kirsten's avatar

Thanks for this continuing thread on the mechanisms of vaccine side effects. 👍🏼👏 I'm getting what's your saying, how this immune system dysregulation leads to problems in so many areas of the body. Versus the amyloid and prion theory that would affect so many areas of the body.

I know you chose the name reverse AIDS because of stickiness. Every time I hear it though I get a little confused, and feel like I need to understand it all over again. This is play because I don't have enough of an understanding of the immune system, and I've watched a few videos today to understand a little more. It's my understanding simplistically, AIDS depletes CD4 cells so the immune system is severely hampered in fighting any infection (generally CD4 cells are helper T cells and activate other parts of the immune system).

So the vaccine reduces CD8 + t cells (which has many effects that you've pointed out), which are the cells that kill pathogens and cells infected with pathogens (and have formed memory T cells). I just can't get it in my brain how in any way "reverse AIDS" applies to this process. I guess the only way I can think of it is that CD8 cells are reduced rather than CD4 cells. Was that your thinking and calling it reverse aids? Or is there something else I can understand that won't throw me off?

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Moriarty's avatar

The protein misfolding is connected to all of this too, but it will mainly affect certain organs and the brain. But to do that you need to go through SO MUCH things that you would understand why I shoot people down when they bring that up, especially when it comes from morons like Walter.

AIDS creates resevoirs inside CD4 T cells, and slowly causes exhaustion, meaning, your body can't create new cells, it literally kills those cells "for good". The vaccine substantially drops your CD8 cells for a few weeks (so does the virus sometimes), and yes this is exactly why I called Reverse AIDS, because it would be the reverse of "killing" CD4 cells, another name I used was PAID, Paradoxical Acquired Immune Dysfunction, which literally is from "evidence based perspective".

You could also correlate heavily with CVID, Common Variable Immune Deficiency. But again, in this case it is temporary, you just got to fix certain underlying processes and most people will go back to "normal".

So your assertion was correct. The other name for all the pathways and mechanism involved was about Hermes, god of speed, because of the disease acceleration aspect of all of this.

In my opinion this is the most meaningful aspect of the vaccine adverse effects, and a lot of the other mechanisms other people found, end up in the same way, or slightly different, but with the exact same supplements to fix it.

When I first started all this I wrote that my goal is minimizing Covid damage (and from the vaccines). Still my goal, now I can also fix a lot of other things.

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Le Chat Noir's avatar

I like the name PAID best, both because it is indeed paradoxical and because it reminds me of what the vaccines are largely about - certain people getting paid!

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Moriarty's avatar

I might just refer to PAID from now on and yes the hidden meaning was exactly because of that 😆. It's all about getting paid 😆

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Kirsten's avatar

Okay I understand better. Thanks for this reply John Paul.

Dr Fleming talks about prions in this video as well, maybe you've already seen it.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-richard-fleming-how-the-vaxx-is-breaking-down-the-body_O6Vy9D1XVXc4Fn5.html

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Moriarty's avatar

No problem 👍🏻. I have watched that video when it first came out, most of it Is accurate. Guess which part isn't... 😆🤔

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Nick G.'s avatar

Why is Walter a moron? I love both your research and i think humility is a valuable asset! He always admits when he has gone up a blind alley...

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Moriarty's avatar

In a recent post (One about SARS or monkeypox I think), in the comments, I shared why.

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Nick G.'s avatar

Oh .. I can’t see it in any recent posts. Either way it strikes me as unsavoury to resort to such personal language when people are just looking for answers in this mess with only good intentions.

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Moriarty's avatar

I will just write up again. Walter gained notoriety by pushing bullshit (the Prion thing), and the more he grew the more bullshit he pushed, a lot of the ideas he puts forth he stole from researchers and scientists I know, and he did a VERY POOR job at building his ideas upon those.

I have no problems with people being grifters, the Right-wing side of Covid is filled with them. I have a massive problem when I had to rescue over a 100 people with severe depression from actual suicide because of him, and my ex had to rescue dozens herself. I spent weeks doing just this, 16 hours a day.

I rather call him a moron, and doing this out of stupidity, than to believe he did it on purpose out of malice.

I don't care about most of the other researchers, but some I despise. Malone, Kirsch and people inside that circle of "friends" and Walter are among these. I appreciate you being a subscriber but my opinions on this moron will never change, it is personal to me because of the suicide thing. I take that VERY seriously.

Adam Virology guy is also another one, but he is doing it on purpose.

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Nick G.'s avatar

Thanks for explaining. I personally don’t share that impression of him or his work - his prion obsession seems to have developed into amyloidosis and fibrosis pathways these days, which you and other writers also cover, and are certainly part of the bigger picture of this bastard spike’s action. He certainly can scare the shit out of people though with his doom vibes at times, so i’m sorry to hear about those people you know, Regards and thanks for your work.

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Brad Rob's avatar

Thank you for this John Paul. Is it possible that a low level inflammation state leads to weight gain?

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Moriarty's avatar

Yes, multiple ways to do it too. Reversing the inflammation would be the initial step. Antioxidants and fasting, allied with a lower carb diet.

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Soviet Canuckistan's avatar

Could you please point me to the studies or articles showing that the response to N protein is necessary to clear the virus? Thanks.

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Moriarty's avatar

I don't know if when I reply to someone in a thread of comments, you get a notification, so I am copy and pasting what I replied to Erik.

There are many important ones on the N protein, but this would be the one you better read.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.09.483635v1

An normal response is similar to what both papers describe (together). CD4 and CD8 cells with early Interferon gamma, and some Interleukins, problem usually is timing and duration of these responses among other things.

You also want plenty of mucosal IgA (antibodies in your mucosa) BEFORE you even get actually infected. Something the vaccines DON'T do.

Simplified for brevity sake.

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Soviet Canuckistan's avatar

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply.

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Erik Petersen's avatar

I'm curious about this as well. Also interested in what a full bodied immune response to COVID is supposed to look like in general.

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Moriarty's avatar

There are many important ones on the N protein, but this would be the one you better read.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.03.09.483635v1

An normal response is similar to what both papers describe (together). CD4 and CD8 cells with early Interferon gamma, and some Interleukins, problem usually is timing and duration of these responses among other things.

You also want plenty of mucosal IgA (antibodies in your mucosa) BEFORE you even get actually infected. Something the vaccines DON'T do.

Simplified for brevity sake.

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Soviet Canuckistan's avatar

I always assumed the importance of N protein response was overblown but it looks like it does play an important role in fighting the virus after all. Now I just pray they don't target non-S proteins in their future "vaccines", making them mutate faster to evade natural immunity as Igor Chudov was saying.

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Moriarty's avatar

They have too. Either the N or the M, or using very cutting edge technology to use specific epitopes from the virus to elicit a strong immune response.

They already have been evading natural immunity for almost a year (since Delta), now everyone is on a "level playing field" of some sorts lol.

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Duchess's avatar

Does an LAV vaccine currently exist???

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Moriarty's avatar

Some argue Omicron is a LAV, otherwise only the authors one.

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Duchess's avatar

Wow, really? Congrats. Although my guess would be they don't want to hear it...they are far too enamoured of their new platform...which doesn't work.

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Duchess's avatar

I'm ashamed to be ignorant of this.

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Beenz's avatar

Doesnt LAV just mean regular vaccine?as in they take the germ and give a weak form of it to you to instill the immune response conferring immunity.

Or are you guys talking about Omicron being intentionally releaased as a manmade weakened covid 19 virus and THAT is acting as an airborne vaccine like bill gates talks about doing?

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Moriarty's avatar

There are two types of regular vaccines. Inactivated and attenuated, but yes it means that.

I was also referring to Omicron being intentionally designed and release as a LAV, and it is acting as a airbone vaccine BUT it was a bet, not a certain thing.

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Duchess's avatar

PS thank you for clarifying. I wish I had a quarter of your brain...

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Moriarty's avatar

Previous comment bugged. If you take my brain stack your brain will work on another level, give you my word =D.

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Duchess's avatar

Well, I respect your instincts. I don't think I've had Omcron either. How many of us, do you think, did not get any kind of Covid this past 2 years?

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Moriarty's avatar

At this point, the majority had Omicron to different levels of "mildness", it was literally everywhere. Most didn't even get sick.

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Duchess's avatar

I asked and yes, they are talking about what passed for a vaccine in our brains.. (although there are many that do NOT do that...like whooping cough, etc...apparently this has been going on for a while...like with FLU shots). I think that the verdict is out on the Omicron strain acting as an airborne vaccine...or where it came from...

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Beenz's avatar

I dont follow, whats different with whooping cough shots?and flu shots.

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Moriarty's avatar

Everything I wrote is backed up by a myriad of papers, write something to debunk it all. 👍🏻

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