I did not want to overly complicated things, but the microbiome also plays a significant role in latent pathogens, something overlooked by many, and a dynamic that plays a very extensive role in long covid and autoimmunity (and long covid, and one of the ways Covid induces autoimmunity).
Thank you, this is a great article that I just read and shared with friends. I used common sense to see this coming. Your data is confirmation. I had heard that letting babies “get in the dirt” was good for them but it was never really explained.
I work at a school and am seeing kids with social and speech issues. Not to mention the rampant anxiety and behavior issues for all grades. Thanks again, I really appreciate your work.
You are slowly building the infant immune system with exposure to certain things, "dirty" being one of them. A mother's milk is among the most important steps too (also cited in the papers as one of the most beneficial exposure steps a child can have).
It is really sad that kids are having so many of these issues because of some evil, stupid f*cks.
@Cormack ..regarding to anxiety and behaviour issues, specifically did you notice children becoming or behaving more aggressively/destructively ...what i mean to say is the ones, who were anyway aggressive in nature have become much much more aggressive and kind of violent..of course memory (forgetfulness) issues are anyway increasing... @John Paul also i have seen,by last 6-8 month (plus/minus) some kid of 8 year suddenly becoming tall like a 11-12 year olds (those 11 year old who have good heights or considered tall even at 11 year) his speech and mental development ofcourse remains like 8 year old (his parents took 2 doses +Booster, brother corbavax ,whatever 1 or 2 given at his age of 13 he took +MMR ,this boy took MMR ..they all had covid many times and are frequently sick, his dad had Molnupiravir when covid )...is it a case of fast ageing in children?
My mom always told me to go play in the dirt !!! Back at the time it was already becoming uncommon to let kids play in the dirt, no surprise when immune related issues started popping in my age bracket couple decades later.
I just watched the following paywalled show about Dr. Sabine Hazan's work during COVID. Being a gastroenterologist, one of the things she discovered (in addition to mejbcart's comments) is that the COVID vax destroys Bifidobacterium in adults and in breastfed infants of vaxxed mothers.
Hazan also mentioned that she analyzed close to thirty kefir products claiming to contain Bifidobacterium and only found three that actually contained the bacterium. 🤦♀️
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Dr. Sabine Hazan: The Gut Bacteria That’s Missing in People Who Get Severe COVID
A lot of the commercial probiotics are very...shady, some of the scientific papers that test pre, pro and other type of biotics always state that commercial brands are kinda tricky, hit or miss so the average person should be very aware that replicating the study will be hard (because a lot of researchers are aware that some people are desperate for answers).
So glad to read my playing in a lot of dirt as a kid was good for me. Hope playing for hours in my sandbox and having fallen into a gutter of cow manure as a toddler helped, too.
I suspect the sandbox helped your immune system a lot more than the cow manure, but perhaps the cow manure exposure gave you a unique set of microbes or resistance, it would be interesting to find out some way (I am not aware how one would even do that =( ).
I read, then saw a report back when the fecal transplants were being studied (in the UK, I think...) on MS patients, seemingly finding some possible ties to the microbiome imbalances. It caught my attention because my 1st husband had chronic, progressive MS that took him from a hard working owner/operator (truck driver) with a union card to fall back on when work was slow, to a bedridden man who lost his ability to speak, was fed through a tube and the horrid list could go on and on. He passed away in '92 from complications due to pneumonia. He was 39 years old. Took care of him at home while working shifts at the railroad until '88 when I couldn't anymore; had to place him in a nursing home. I have multiple chronic issues (chronic pain was at the top of the ever expanding list which finally led to SSDI. I still, to this day, miss my job in transportation. I think I cried for months after I had to quit. Anyway I've had gut issues for as long as I can remember, thought it was nerves. My GI doctor would send me to the lab with 'samples' every time I started a cycle of frequent bathroom visits to check for parasites??? to the point where the lab techs saw me coming, if you know what I mean. lol I was diagnosed in '88 with IBS, diverticulitis, etc etc etc. I will have an attack for no apparent reason and unable to pin point a specific food/drink that would be responsible for triggering the events, it would take weeks to settle down and it would feel like I'd been kicked in the gut. 2020 was a nightmare trying to find a pain doctor to maintain my Medtronic pain pump (dilaudid) after mine of 20 years, retired and his replacement was a quack. Twice I almost ran out of pump meds and withdrawal isn't my favorite activity plus the hospitals aren't equipped to handle cases that involve pump refills. At one point I had NO doctor. Also I am pretty damned sure that I contacted covid in February of 2020, and after that my gut was so out of control that my GI doc (not the same one) ordered an endoscopy and colonoscopy since I do have to be monitored since my 1994 nissen fundoplication. He only found some irritation but nothing out of the ordinary. Never really calmed down after that and has been a constant battle ever since. I began taking NAC 500 as well as alpha-lipoic acid 150 w/NAC 150 after reading some of your Substacks as well as some others, a few months ago for immune protection, I already take 8000 iu vitamin D3 (I was low) for 7 years along with vitamin K2-MK7 120 mcg to compliment the calcium magnesium supplement for bone health. After starting the NAC, within a month, suddenly all of my gut problems stopped. I've never had a break, so to speak, this long from the runs. Never. In fact I didn't tie it to the NAC until I read your article. I am stunned and almost fearful to 'say it out loud' because doing so will turn and bite me in the ass...lol Had one incident but it was so slight, 24 hours, with none of the 2 week plus aftershocks of pain. I am a believer now. Have a question about Glycine, I got some, 600 mg last week, I know it supports the immune system, blood glucose, yep, I'm a T2, and it is 1 of the 3 required building blocks of glutathione. Have had hydrotropic cardiomyopathy diagnosis in 2015; in January of this year I ended up in the ER with what turned out to be atrial fibrillation. NEVER SAW THAT COMING. The h. cardio, according to my cardiologist, may have been there from birth. My last ultrasound and EKG in 2022 showed no progression. I don't see him again until late April. Do you have any reservations about taking glycine (because of my cardiac issues), what a reasonable dosage is and/or reliable sites where the information hasn't been screwed with? Rest assured that I understand you aren't responsible for me choosing to consume the supplement, and all that jazz. I recognize from reading your material that you have been spot on, on so many issues, and while I often think I am reading a different language lol cause I don't understand a lot of the technical stuff, I am not completely dim and get your drift and most importantly, the bottom line. Thank you for all you do.
Thank you for this post. The bugs were bugging me for quite a while, ever since hearing that adults having deficiency of bifidobacteria (the ones received from mothers milk after the birth), have higher covid prevalence...
On the other hand one never finds a Clostridium species in any supplemental probiotic support, whether for adults or for babies... Why? These are both pathogenic and nonpathogenic species; the latter are only rarely encountered in fresh tissue. Thus clostridium is usually associated with diseases.. And now they shall be missed in overall health because of social distancing???
Oh, and who is Carina Venter7? Any connection to Craig?
On the probiotics subject, something I replied to another subscribers:
"A lot of the commercial probiotics are very...shady, some of the scientific papers that test pre, pro and other type of biotics always state that commercial brands are kinda tricky, hit or miss so the average person should be very aware that replicating the study will be hard (because a lot of researchers are aware that some people are desperate for answers)."
Author's state that time of exposure, quantity, overall shift and level of other microbes must be researched to reach complete hypothesis and have better understanding on the dynamics where the presence, abundance or lack of a microbe induces disease. Even Akkermansia, disrupted long-term by SARS-CoV-2 can induce disease in both abundance, and lower levels.
I had many interesting papers on bifidobacteria from a interdisciplinary approach but lost all of them when my browser crashed months ago =(.
So sorry, you lost all your data! Is there no way to get someone to recover it?
I am dealing with histamine issues that got worse after having Delta. Reading Dirty Genes right now and will be making an appointment with my ND. She has me on Butyrate in the evenings and that helps.
No way to recover it because I didn't use the browser service for saving all my data. Not a big fan but now I do and even then sometimes I still lose it.
I need to delve into the histamine side of this, it was pretty common post-Delta, means your immune system is heavily tilted towards allergic responses. Did you find the triggers ?
Yes, I am finding fermented items give me headaches, gut discomfort, itchy skin and brain fog. When I drink alcohol (which is typically one on holidays or vacation) I feel like I have the flu the next day, chills, fatigue, etc. Other items: Chocolate, citrus and other high histamine foods are now bothering me. I was doing ok with watching my diet till the spring pollen hit. I hate taking antihistamines but when the symptoms are bad I will. My appointment with my wonderful NP is at the end of this month. Hoping she can help me sort out my gut. I really appreciate your insight as it helps me know I’m on the right track. Before delta it was typical seasonal allergy symptoms, now it’s a whole new level.
"In terms of diet, atopic dermatitis was positively associated with the frequent infant consumption of starchy vegetables, fish, peanuts and pistachios, and negatively with the consumption of grain, pine nuts, and kimchi."
Could someone explain this to me? So positively associated means more cases of AD?
No direct evidence but the consumption of those foods correlated with more positive cases of Atopic Dermatitis. Nuts and some starchy vegetables are often linked to more allergic states or setting off allergic reactions in allergy prone individuals.
This is an interesting situation then because now everyone recommends to expose the kids early to peanuts and other allergy inducing foods to prevent worse allergic reactions in adulthood. So how should one proceed?
If the kid is healthy without signs of allergic reactions, it is ok. There is much more to it than "meet the eyes" and the microbiome part of this give us clues.
I would personally give more animal protein to my kids if I had them, and introduce other foods as I saw fit. Meat and Animal fats makes kid strong and smart 😁
rural people didn't generally put masks on their infants and generally didn't succumb to the fear campaign and tried hard to resist the transfection campaign. these are confounders that are ignored.
Interesting, my mom also used a lot of Merthiolate when I was young, and such as you, I was always hurting myself almost on a weekly basis, but I didn't develop a mercury allergy, I wonder what exact is the difference between us (besides genetics obviously).
I did not want to overly complicated things, but the microbiome also plays a significant role in latent pathogens, something overlooked by many, and a dynamic that plays a very extensive role in long covid and autoimmunity (and long covid, and one of the ways Covid induces autoimmunity).
Thank you, this is a great article that I just read and shared with friends. I used common sense to see this coming. Your data is confirmation. I had heard that letting babies “get in the dirt” was good for them but it was never really explained.
I work at a school and am seeing kids with social and speech issues. Not to mention the rampant anxiety and behavior issues for all grades. Thanks again, I really appreciate your work.
You are slowly building the infant immune system with exposure to certain things, "dirty" being one of them. A mother's milk is among the most important steps too (also cited in the papers as one of the most beneficial exposure steps a child can have).
It is really sad that kids are having so many of these issues because of some evil, stupid f*cks.
@Cormack ..regarding to anxiety and behaviour issues, specifically did you notice children becoming or behaving more aggressively/destructively ...what i mean to say is the ones, who were anyway aggressive in nature have become much much more aggressive and kind of violent..of course memory (forgetfulness) issues are anyway increasing... @John Paul also i have seen,by last 6-8 month (plus/minus) some kid of 8 year suddenly becoming tall like a 11-12 year olds (those 11 year old who have good heights or considered tall even at 11 year) his speech and mental development ofcourse remains like 8 year old (his parents took 2 doses +Booster, brother corbavax ,whatever 1 or 2 given at his age of 13 he took +MMR ,this boy took MMR ..they all had covid many times and are frequently sick, his dad had Molnupiravir when covid )...is it a case of fast ageing in children?
Mom was an avid gardener in New Orleans and so as a toddler I received both types of D in copious amounts. Thanks mom!
My mom always told me to go play in the dirt !!! Back at the time it was already becoming uncommon to let kids play in the dirt, no surprise when immune related issues started popping in my age bracket couple decades later.
Same in my family
I just watched the following paywalled show about Dr. Sabine Hazan's work during COVID. Being a gastroenterologist, one of the things she discovered (in addition to mejbcart's comments) is that the COVID vax destroys Bifidobacterium in adults and in breastfed infants of vaxxed mothers.
Hazan also mentioned that she analyzed close to thirty kefir products claiming to contain Bifidobacterium and only found three that actually contained the bacterium. 🤦♀️
=====
Dr. Sabine Hazan: The Gut Bacteria That’s Missing in People Who Get Severe COVID
https://www.theepochtimes.com/dr-sabine-hazan-the-gut-bacteria-thats-missing-in-people-who-get-severe-covid_5140242.html
A lot of the commercial probiotics are very...shady, some of the scientific papers that test pre, pro and other type of biotics always state that commercial brands are kinda tricky, hit or miss so the average person should be very aware that replicating the study will be hard (because a lot of researchers are aware that some people are desperate for answers).
So glad to read my playing in a lot of dirt as a kid was good for me. Hope playing for hours in my sandbox and having fallen into a gutter of cow manure as a toddler helped, too.
I suspect the sandbox helped your immune system a lot more than the cow manure, but perhaps the cow manure exposure gave you a unique set of microbes or resistance, it would be interesting to find out some way (I am not aware how one would even do that =( ).
Thanks. A great deal to this. Clean non toxic dirt and some healthy doses of reality are in order.
I read, then saw a report back when the fecal transplants were being studied (in the UK, I think...) on MS patients, seemingly finding some possible ties to the microbiome imbalances. It caught my attention because my 1st husband had chronic, progressive MS that took him from a hard working owner/operator (truck driver) with a union card to fall back on when work was slow, to a bedridden man who lost his ability to speak, was fed through a tube and the horrid list could go on and on. He passed away in '92 from complications due to pneumonia. He was 39 years old. Took care of him at home while working shifts at the railroad until '88 when I couldn't anymore; had to place him in a nursing home. I have multiple chronic issues (chronic pain was at the top of the ever expanding list which finally led to SSDI. I still, to this day, miss my job in transportation. I think I cried for months after I had to quit. Anyway I've had gut issues for as long as I can remember, thought it was nerves. My GI doctor would send me to the lab with 'samples' every time I started a cycle of frequent bathroom visits to check for parasites??? to the point where the lab techs saw me coming, if you know what I mean. lol I was diagnosed in '88 with IBS, diverticulitis, etc etc etc. I will have an attack for no apparent reason and unable to pin point a specific food/drink that would be responsible for triggering the events, it would take weeks to settle down and it would feel like I'd been kicked in the gut. 2020 was a nightmare trying to find a pain doctor to maintain my Medtronic pain pump (dilaudid) after mine of 20 years, retired and his replacement was a quack. Twice I almost ran out of pump meds and withdrawal isn't my favorite activity plus the hospitals aren't equipped to handle cases that involve pump refills. At one point I had NO doctor. Also I am pretty damned sure that I contacted covid in February of 2020, and after that my gut was so out of control that my GI doc (not the same one) ordered an endoscopy and colonoscopy since I do have to be monitored since my 1994 nissen fundoplication. He only found some irritation but nothing out of the ordinary. Never really calmed down after that and has been a constant battle ever since. I began taking NAC 500 as well as alpha-lipoic acid 150 w/NAC 150 after reading some of your Substacks as well as some others, a few months ago for immune protection, I already take 8000 iu vitamin D3 (I was low) for 7 years along with vitamin K2-MK7 120 mcg to compliment the calcium magnesium supplement for bone health. After starting the NAC, within a month, suddenly all of my gut problems stopped. I've never had a break, so to speak, this long from the runs. Never. In fact I didn't tie it to the NAC until I read your article. I am stunned and almost fearful to 'say it out loud' because doing so will turn and bite me in the ass...lol Had one incident but it was so slight, 24 hours, with none of the 2 week plus aftershocks of pain. I am a believer now. Have a question about Glycine, I got some, 600 mg last week, I know it supports the immune system, blood glucose, yep, I'm a T2, and it is 1 of the 3 required building blocks of glutathione. Have had hydrotropic cardiomyopathy diagnosis in 2015; in January of this year I ended up in the ER with what turned out to be atrial fibrillation. NEVER SAW THAT COMING. The h. cardio, according to my cardiologist, may have been there from birth. My last ultrasound and EKG in 2022 showed no progression. I don't see him again until late April. Do you have any reservations about taking glycine (because of my cardiac issues), what a reasonable dosage is and/or reliable sites where the information hasn't been screwed with? Rest assured that I understand you aren't responsible for me choosing to consume the supplement, and all that jazz. I recognize from reading your material that you have been spot on, on so many issues, and while I often think I am reading a different language lol cause I don't understand a lot of the technical stuff, I am not completely dim and get your drift and most importantly, the bottom line. Thank you for all you do.
Thank you for this post. The bugs were bugging me for quite a while, ever since hearing that adults having deficiency of bifidobacteria (the ones received from mothers milk after the birth), have higher covid prevalence...
On the other hand one never finds a Clostridium species in any supplemental probiotic support, whether for adults or for babies... Why? These are both pathogenic and nonpathogenic species; the latter are only rarely encountered in fresh tissue. Thus clostridium is usually associated with diseases.. And now they shall be missed in overall health because of social distancing???
Oh, and who is Carina Venter7? Any connection to Craig?
On the probiotics subject, something I replied to another subscribers:
"A lot of the commercial probiotics are very...shady, some of the scientific papers that test pre, pro and other type of biotics always state that commercial brands are kinda tricky, hit or miss so the average person should be very aware that replicating the study will be hard (because a lot of researchers are aware that some people are desperate for answers)."
Author's state that time of exposure, quantity, overall shift and level of other microbes must be researched to reach complete hypothesis and have better understanding on the dynamics where the presence, abundance or lack of a microbe induces disease. Even Akkermansia, disrupted long-term by SARS-CoV-2 can induce disease in both abundance, and lower levels.
I had many interesting papers on bifidobacteria from a interdisciplinary approach but lost all of them when my browser crashed months ago =(.
So sorry, you lost all your data! Is there no way to get someone to recover it?
I am dealing with histamine issues that got worse after having Delta. Reading Dirty Genes right now and will be making an appointment with my ND. She has me on Butyrate in the evenings and that helps.
No way to recover it because I didn't use the browser service for saving all my data. Not a big fan but now I do and even then sometimes I still lose it.
I need to delve into the histamine side of this, it was pretty common post-Delta, means your immune system is heavily tilted towards allergic responses. Did you find the triggers ?
Yes, I am finding fermented items give me headaches, gut discomfort, itchy skin and brain fog. When I drink alcohol (which is typically one on holidays or vacation) I feel like I have the flu the next day, chills, fatigue, etc. Other items: Chocolate, citrus and other high histamine foods are now bothering me. I was doing ok with watching my diet till the spring pollen hit. I hate taking antihistamines but when the symptoms are bad I will. My appointment with my wonderful NP is at the end of this month. Hoping she can help me sort out my gut. I really appreciate your insight as it helps me know I’m on the right track. Before delta it was typical seasonal allergy symptoms, now it’s a whole new level.
I grew up on a farm and my mom owned a daycare so guess I’m well equipped. paper was great btw :)
I am looking forward to learning more. My 25 year old Son is even talking about gut biome.
The field of microbiome is a ever expanding one, highly complex yet holds the most answers too, very rewarding to research it.
"In terms of diet, atopic dermatitis was positively associated with the frequent infant consumption of starchy vegetables, fish, peanuts and pistachios, and negatively with the consumption of grain, pine nuts, and kimchi."
Could someone explain this to me? So positively associated means more cases of AD?
No direct evidence but the consumption of those foods correlated with more positive cases of Atopic Dermatitis. Nuts and some starchy vegetables are often linked to more allergic states or setting off allergic reactions in allergy prone individuals.
This is an interesting situation then because now everyone recommends to expose the kids early to peanuts and other allergy inducing foods to prevent worse allergic reactions in adulthood. So how should one proceed?
If the kid is healthy without signs of allergic reactions, it is ok. There is much more to it than "meet the eyes" and the microbiome part of this give us clues.
I would personally give more animal protein to my kids if I had them, and introduce other foods as I saw fit. Meat and Animal fats makes kid strong and smart 😁
My parents generation or older grew up on goose/pig/duck fat on bread and salami...
rural people didn't generally put masks on their infants and generally didn't succumb to the fear campaign and tried hard to resist the transfection campaign. these are confounders that are ignored.
Interesting, my mom also used a lot of Merthiolate when I was young, and such as you, I was always hurting myself almost on a weekly basis, but I didn't develop a mercury allergy, I wonder what exact is the difference between us (besides genetics obviously).