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mguag's avatar

Is BioPrime supplements a reputable brand to buy stable BPC -157? They offer it in "liquid stable drops". Also BPC-157 online at India Mart. Are India markets a reliable source? It would be helpful if you and commenters would post reliable sites to purchase from. Also reliable forms. Thanks so much for all your research and information.

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Moriarty's avatar

It is heavily pushed by some doctors, and some researchers (BioPrime). 95% of the world peptides come from China, so it literally doesn't matter if you buy from place X, or place Y. India produces some too, quality is the same everywhere, only one canadian lab produces a superior product, and supposedly BioPrime.

Powder for you to reconstitute is the best form, the one more effective, and with the better cost, second comes pill/capsule form, which you lose half of the potency, as in, if the bottle say 250 mcg per dose, your body is actually getting 125.

I never tested the liquid stable drops, and I would very much prefer the powder I reconstitute myself over that, because it is better and cheaper.

I live in Brazil, I have to import the capsules and disguise them as other things hehe. Brands with good reviews are usually a safe bet, but again, most come from the same place (China).

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Vincent Yannella's avatar

Hello,

Hello,

How long does it take before the BPC-157 supplement to be clinically effective? Do certain psychotropic agents and other medications (antibiotics) that will interfere with this supplement ability to be clinically effective? Are there certain vitamins and amino acids supplements that are counter-productive in the BPC-157 clinically effective?

thanks,

Vinny

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Moriarty's avatar

Experiencing improvement depends on what exactly you are using to treat. Tendon, muscle, and similar "sports injury" often take 2 weeks to observe improvements, gut/stomach issues take longer, 4. Any other issue takes around 4 too. I am not aware of any interactions with psychotropic agents but it is recommended to take BPC after taking antibiotics.

The only thing that will definitely affect it's efficacy is proteolytic enzymes such as Serrapeptase, Natto and Lumbrokinase.

For better effects it is recommended to take BPC with food, and no other supplement 2 hours before and after. Just that, no need to skip anything just taking it hours apart.

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Potatodots's avatar

Thank you! I just found 2 very legit businesses in the US that have the PBC-157. I'm very interested to see what it will do for the ME, and chronic WNV. Won't hurt it!

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Moriarty's avatar

I truly hope and pray they work for you 🙏🏻 most people see at least a level of improvement if it doesn't outright fix them. Keep me posted please and the best of luck to you.

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Potatodots's avatar

Thank you. I will let you know my experience~

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Josh's avatar

Do you inject or take orally?

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Moriarty's avatar

I do not know if you will see this message, I have never saw this comment or received an alert, notification or e-mail.

You can take BPC orally, even if you are using injections, it is one of the few peptides you can straight up "drink".

You may as well have found it after all this time, and I am sorry, but I will reply in case, someone, at some point in the future finds this question and wonder the same.

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hillcountry's avatar

Thanks for tuning us into this, John Paul. Appreciate the heads-up.

found this write-up on How To Buy BPC-157

He discusses the acetate and arginate forms.

https://www.peptidesciences.com/blog/how-to-buy-bpc-157

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Vincent Yannella's avatar

Hi Moriarty,

Thanks for responding to my questions. Recently, I sent you an email message ; do you receive m email message?

Take care

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Moriarty's avatar

I have replied to the only email I received form you on December 23.

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Boorecky Nella's avatar

Where does one purchase powder or pills?

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Moriarty's avatar

Online if you are in the first world, some countries made it difficult to have a internal stock/supply so you might need to import or ask a friend to send you some.

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Boorecky Nella's avatar

Thanks.

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Orlando V.'s avatar

You mentioned something about cancer and BPC in one of your past tweets?

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Moriarty's avatar

It might there is not one single evidence about it, there is nothing, not even the biggest peptide specialists saw it happen while treating people. It's just that it causes angiogenesis, something cancer also causes so some "researchers" jumped to that conclusion.

If I develop cancer I will let you know. I took more of this than any person on the planet.

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Hope's avatar

JP, I am researching bpc157 now. I did when you originally wrote this article but I thought it was all injectable and I had no idea where to start. (Overwhelmed) I’m going to reach out to a Dr near me that might be able to help because there are too many options and I don’t want to get it wrong.

I always experiment on myself and send to my sister, if we have improvements I’ll let you know.

In your Alzheimer’s article one cause was depression, I am very suspicious of that being her issue because her brain scans and spinal tap all came back fine. She repeatedly got lost in my house and couldn’t follow simple instructions. Love her and would buy/try anything to bring her back.

Anywho, I’m always TMI, sorry, everyone is my friend and I’m reading you for a few years now. Hahaha go to your Gab account and see that I’ve followed you and have shared pretty much everything you put out.

Not to be over the top but you have been spot on in so many things and always ahead of everyone. Very much appreciated.

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Moriarty's avatar

The powder is a cheaper option of BPC-157, the pills work, but you lose half of the declared potency, so if you take a 250 mcg pill, you are effectively consuming 125 mcg, and the pills are also more expensive, so in the end it becomes quite expensive.

Most of the world's peptides come from China, some from the US, you can't go "wrong" with it 99% of the time.

Depression is highly correlated with both inflammation, gut issues (microbiome) and the kynurenine pathway. Supplementation would be a better initial attempt to help your sister, and the peptides coming next. I would also advise to attempt high dosage Thiamine (b1) in this case benfothiamine, the best form of B1 for anything brain-related, and perhaps at some point my brain stack.

My second peptides post has a bunch of peptides specifically aimed at neurorenegeration, give it a look too.

Thank you for your kind words =).

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Moriarty's avatar

Bro, BPC is stable on your gut but it's been known to have a fragile chemical structure, you can't even squirt the jab too fast or you break it down some.

I can't even know how they stabilize it so you spray into your nose. I do rather buy the powder or the pills, but that is just me.

The powder is the most cost effective of all.

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Raymond O'Mara's avatar

Thank you for the info. I will try to get pills or powder. For the past two days I've been experiencing a pulled muscle feeling in lower right abdomen, it hurts more when I inhale or bend down. I am worried it could be the beginning of a hernia or maybe just a really badly pulled abdominal muscle. The pain is much worse today, and then I (coincidentally?) happened to see you post this info today as well, which is interesting. Hopefully it helps me.

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Raymond O'Mara's avatar

Looks like I will be trying both the powder and pill forms. I ordered a vial of the powder from one of those peptide "research" suppliers (hehe). Since I don't intend to inject, I don't need to use BAC water right? I plan to (gently) reconstitute with distilled water, then use a 1ml dropper to measure doses. Do you think this would work without breaking down the peptide too much? It seems I also may have some trouble removing the lid from the vial if I wanna go that route (depending on what kind of lid they use) but I'm sure I can figure it out...

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hillcountry's avatar

Raymond - how's that working out for you? We've been using a couple of brands of capsules, but now I'm wondering about the acetate/arginate distinction I found over at Peptidesciences.com (see link above for my comment yesterday) and the large price differential between capsules sold on Amazon and the vials sold at Peptidesciences. Thanks in advance if you have the time to respond here.

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