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Kirsten's avatar

It seems like by the time they make an Omicron specific vaccine, another variant will be circulating. I wonder if we're in flu vaccine terrain, where they are trying to make a covid vaccine every year.

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Moriarty's avatar

I have a few papers, and one using populational data literally showing that the vaccines are fueling this evolution. Right now, yes, they are pushing for yearly Covid vaccines, but before they were pushing for quarterly. You probably know my position by now (no jabs ever).

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Kirsten's avatar

Yep, no jabs ever. 🥂

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

More than 1. In 2 years, starting from "alpha", we are up to omicron, BA1 & BA2.

That is why nobody has ever made a successful coronavirus vax before, & sane people gave up long ago

They are highly, highly mutagenic. It is impossible to develop, manufacture & distribute an effective coronavirus vaccine, faster than it can mutate.

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Moriarty's avatar

In fact, the current vaccines make the virus mutate faster, I have plenty of posts about it, which was my point since 2020. Me, and others knew this mess would come…

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

Which Dr Vanden Bossche has said from the start. We are getting decades worth of mutations within 2 years.

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Moriarty's avatar

Years, not decades. You just gotta analyze the molecular clock of the virus. He exaggerates too much, all the time.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

"You just gotta analyze the molecular clock of the virus"

Unless quantum swarm theory is correct, in which all variants already exist & emerge as changing circumstances favor one over the rest.

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Moriarty's avatar

You can mathematically quantify how many years worth of evolution a pathogen had with molecular clock, what you are attempting to imply is recombination rate.

Which the paper addresses in a way I am not much favorable.

If anyone, him or anyone else wants to present a equation to prove that the virus evolved decades, be my guest. Some actually smart (I am not) will review it and see if it's right.

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pandelis's avatar

dr. fauci and dr. collins pushed their way through by destroying all dissent opinions. this is not science.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

Collins is the one that shocked me. Not due to his ignorance; he was 1st a mathematician & only went back to med school because of his interest in dna research sparked by a researcher friend.

But his (apparently faux) Christianity. I saw him on that "roots" program that researched famous people's genealogy & he seemed so nice. And I saw him in interviews & read his background, how he was raised by atheist/agnostic scientist parents, home-schooled early, came to Christianity late in life. He said he got curious about what made believers so faithful. So he researched & said the evidence was overwhelming that Jesus walked the earth & performed miracles. Although in another interview he got snippy when question about his beliefs. I thought he's probably tired of being asked, tired of defending his beliefs to other scientists.

But no follower of Christ could be part of this. Yes, we are all sinners, but what he is part of isn't mere sin. It's satanic!

Now I wonder if it was a role he played to try to lure the "bible totin'" fools...😥

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pandelis's avatar

look at his mentor ... if not mistaken at yale ... a real crook. these people do not make it by chance at the top.

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pandelis's avatar

that was bossche's point from the start of this saga. i doubt it very much they dont know it, and certainly it is not about making bancel rich.

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Moriarty's avatar

It was mine too, before him lol, I pointed this out in June 2020, alas here we are.

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Alberto Silva's avatar

It's been basic veterinary practice since vaccines exist: never vaccinate a sick herd.

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GeeMan's avatar

And it doesn't matter, it appears. The evidence suggests the jabbed will only make the same antibodies to the original spike even if they change the vaccine.

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Duchess's avatar

I need a "five year old" summation...I know you are not saying what, but I lost it after that our current vaxxed population are heading us toward or away from Marek's? Which way /side are you pointing out? Sorry, my brain isn't working well lately....And the last paper, did they take away monoclonal antibodies because they feared a progression to more virulent spike proteins? But are not afraid or sure of the vax impact?

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Moriarty's avatar

They took away the monoclonals, apparently, because they were “ineffective”, but clearly they already had plenty of signal about this, so many papers lately about evolution driven by mAbs.

Authors point out something, I am point out, my argument this whole time is the Reverse. That the vaccinated are creating super charged variants, that affect the vaccinated themselves, and not the unvaccinated (therefore, the opposite of Marek’s Disease). Other variables apply for me to make this argument, it is not just based in one, or two papers, but dozens.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

The best response the authorities could make is to withdraw all c19 vaccines & make available early treatments.

https://c19early.com/

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Simon Teesdale's avatar

This is obvious to anyone with half a brain cell. Similarly it is obvious that it won’t happen. Because we are at war.

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Moriarty's avatar

Harsh but truthful. Based and reality pilled as the kids say.

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Moriarty's avatar

Never going to happen. It's up to the person to treat themselves to the best of their abilities, reason I leave everything open. No paywall, specially the useful stuff.

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huskercr's avatar

Any ideas on the impact of being vaccinated AFTER having had COVID? Is the vaccine as dangerous then? Would having had the disease first lead to a broader immune response than being vaccinated before contracting COVID? Note I am not suggesting that one should be vaccinated after having had COVID, but for some people it will be required.

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Arnold Snyder's avatar

What an unmitigated clusterf*ck.

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Alberto Silva's avatar

+ you must have noted the "epidemic" of food product recall for suspected salmonellas/other contamination.

=> any relation to death jab/just part of same jab immune suppression?

FDA is investigating Lucky Charms after reports of illness

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/18/business/lucky-charms-fda-investigation-illness.html

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