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Cube Cubis's avatar

The UK just approved the Omicron vaccine and will start sending it out in the coming weeks I believe. Do you know if this is based on BA5 ? I guess that is Omicron ? I keep telling everyone "why the hell would I take a piece of software that codes the bad part of the virus to be produced in my own cells" This is insane. People have gone insane. I know people who cannot wait to get jabbed by the new one, because of all the protection they got from the first 4 shots.

This work on the pathways is excellent and scary as hell. But this doesn´t even cover the fact that there will definitely be ADE, OAS and loads of other autoimmune issues. How I explain it to the "normies" is like this. Sending them one of your substacks would be like giving a physics text book to a group of chimps. Your immune system essentially takes photos of the things it wants to get rid of so it can remember them and eliminate them. Imagine that your healthy cells start having these weird spikes on them and your immune system takes loads of photos of many kinds of cells within the body that it might start to attack the cells even without the spike?? Well this is autoimmune disease.... Even that goes over their heads. I don´t even know how to simplify it any further.

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Phil's avatar

Try this: "Your immune system is the police department, and your white blood cells are the police. This morning the police chief handed all the cops going out on duty a mugshot of a very dangerous psychopathic fugitive who was last seen wearing a red hat, with instructions to shoot on sight. Across town, the local city council with the mayor just started handing out red hats to families at a parade."

If that doesn't work, maybe get some crayons...

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Simon Teesdale's avatar

It’s bivalent Moderna vaccine (feel free to infer inverted commas) based on Wuhan and BA1

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Igor Chudov's avatar

It honestly looks like ANY Sars-Cov-2 spike is a bad vaccine target...

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Moriarty's avatar

Arguably the Wuhan one is the best target. The problem is everything else it comes with it.

Omicron BA.1 is kinda meh. Doesn't do much of anything. Little mimicry.

We are back on track for nastiness.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I am also disturbed by how much sicker in general people are becoming...

I know some ppl (not me) who get quite sick every 3 months, with Covid or with "not Covid"

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Moriarty's avatar

That is, as I have been saying for months THE VIRUS IS ALSO FUCKING BAD, especially long-Term. This is exactly why I went on a blocking spree for weeks.

You are about to witness so much shit from both sides you will either go on full on cognitive dissonance or will accept I am right.

Which I am.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I think that you are right, Covid is as bad as a vax dose (with a wide uncertainty band as to what is worse quantitatively and for whom).

I know one teenager with three vaxes and 4 covids already. Last covid ended him in a hospital (but briefly). 107 degree temp.

Do you think that the latest covid variants are also immune suppressive?

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Denis's avatar

I kindda of agree with the fact that Covid is bad but to compare it to the vax, doesn't it depend on the numbers of virions produced by your body and how it lasts ? Having 30 billions or trillions of LNP hacking your cells to produce Spikes for God know how long seems to me a lot worse than 5-7 days of Covid disease (and maybe 2-3 days of replication, also with potential treatments reducing that "natural" production. The difference in LNP concentration in the vax production system (and the bad QC around it...) would explain why 95% of the very serious side effects come from 5% of the batches. Thanks and take care.

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Moriarty's avatar

Denis, the vaccine produces roughly 800 million to 1.something billion Spikes, and yes that is bad, see my commentary to Igor to understand.

They both does the same thing, via different mechanism and pathway, both are bad, with the jab being absurdly worst, but the viral infection carries a lot of risks on its own (that the jab doesn't, but the jab inflicts similar things, well, it is a biochemical mess).

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Hi. Your question is a good one. In reality we do not have a quantified answer and different people react differently to covid or vax. For covid it is called "viral load". I recall a study that found these amounts to be comparable -- but only "on average". I no longer have a link

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SJ's avatar

You're one of the few I've seen who has said this situation is a "pick your poison" scenario (which is my position). I'm a physician and with the boosters it's becoming a daily conversion for me, i.e. which risk do you want to take? With the initial vaccines no one bothered to ask my opinion, they all automatically went out and got them, but many are catching on now and questioning it.

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Little.lambsie's avatar

I was hoping to scroll through and check out the last paragraph where you sum it all up but i still find most of it goes over my head but inquiring minds......they want to kill us

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Moriarty's avatar

This old was more old school but you can get the gist by reading the other pieces but it is this.

The spike from BA. 5 will increase all sorts of disease the old Spike and vaccine caused. They are just that incompetent.

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Sheboygan's avatar

You're far too kind to call them incompetent. More like maliciously evil. They know what they are doing, don't kid yourself.

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Paul Traynor BSc's avatar

it's not guaranteed because you need to consider potential immunodominance of one antigen vs the other. When you combine that with potential issues relating to imprinting, you could overall end up with a worse immune response.

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Moriarty's avatar

Lol the hardest post lately to understand because I went old school haha. Not just quackery, actually dangerous.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I am curious, do you think that it correct to characterize covid vax people as quacks and charlatans?

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Moriarty's avatar

If by covid vax you meant the manufactures and people who push it, this is my opinion on them.

I am will Luigi Warren on this one. Evil, egocentric genocidal maniacs would be a better wording.

The scientists are enablers, because I now know for a fact many jumped ship BEFORE they started production because they all saw the short-comings, among many other things.

Not quacks, not charlatans. Just greedy soulless power hungry evil people.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Yes, I meant people like "Ashish Jha". He is just a charlatan, liar and a grifter.

I am fairly certain that "virologists" who made SC2, designed the spike antigen, which defined what Covid vax will be, and top people really behind the creation of Covid vax were after depopulating us.

But everyone under them -- stupid charlatans.

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Moriarty's avatar

I used to think the Spike was designed by a single person, a genius like Daoyu, but after the last 4 weeks, I am sad to say it was not.

The sheer number of things inside the Spike is incredibly complex and each month we find more, this has been building up for decades, at least a few years BEFORE SARS-CoV (the first) came to be.

It was however, released before it was complete, therefore we had the response we did, where the elites and those in power looked like headless chickens.

The people at the top didn't know btw, they were "gifted" everything. Ralph and Fauci knew, but besides them, maybe another half a dozen people tops. This was fully compartimentalized.

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Denis's avatar

thanks guys!

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