NAC is something I have taken and recommended to others for many years. In 2020 early data suggested utility for CoV and shortly it became unavailable. If one wishes to see evidence of the truly malevolent intent of our federal bureaucracy, the attempt to ban OTC sales by the FDA is “#1 on the hit parade.”
Granted, we were using “Mucomyst” (the branded name for medical NAC 40 years ago) for Tylenol OD as a ‘prescription drug’ but it is utterly safe! It is not just “non-toxic” but it rebuilds our most important ANTIOXIDANT - glutathione. I have been aware of Pharma corruption of medicine for decades, but the EVIL of this move was staggering.
I’ll get down off my soapbox now, but this really angered me. Finding it on shelves in retail stores again has been a pleasant discovery, although I was always able to find it online.
NAC has at least a dozen, proved, clinical uses, but the main one was always the tylenol OD, or some sort of aggresive hepatic toxicity going on, off-label bodybuilders have been taking it for over 30+ years to protect their livers when they "juice".
The moment I read they were pushing to remove NAC from access of people, I knew the jig was up, since the main mechanism for disease progression and damage is ROS/oxidative stress, both things NAC excel at. Followed by the soft HCQ ban and now NMN... clearly only financial interests are take into consideration.
I found that the major drug chains in Canada had removed NAC. Happily the health food stores did not remove their supplies, so it has been easily available.
It was important to have no useful treatment for the EUA for the vaxxes to be granted, thus ensuring that the profits and control would take place.
So Pfizer knew that HCQ would help with adverse events from the vax, but they suppressed the knowledge? That is evil -- well, what else can you expect from that horrible company?
Yes they knew, but since simple interventions of common, generic antibiotic+HCQ would effectively "end" the pandemic, they couldn't let it pass, lose all those billions of dollars, plus a few shady deals in the background. Lets just say, both Pfizer and Moderna were PUSHED to produce the mRNA vaccine.
The more you fear a thing, the more you focus on it.
The more you focus on a thing, the sharper it resolves into being.
You think a group that was expert at mass mind-control would be a little more astute, but I guess millennia of inbreeding for cleverness and psychopathy also makes you retarded.
Yes, I take it everyday and have for years, and many others do as well, it has dozens of benefits, not solely against SARS-CoV-2, for general health. Older people THRIVE on NAC btw.
So sorry that you were sick. Hope you are all well now.
Happy thanksgiving to not only the Americans, but to all people who want to give thanks for the existence of kind people, especially those who are dedicated to helping us. Thank you to all!!
I read often that HCQ is safe for most everyone. When I had covid in June this year, I took it along with the supplement stack and IVM which I'd been taking prophylactically for several months. Had weird strobe lights effect in my vision the 2nd day of HCQ use. Stopped taking it and my eyes cleared. Online research shows vision disturbances can be an issue. Is this common? I was sick only a couple days so the protocol was working. The rest of the family (jabbed) were much sicker than I was.
I have seen a few people experiencing the exact same symptom, sometimes followed by heart arrhythmia, it is very rare, but it does happen in some people.
I dispensed HCQ regularly for most of my 38 years as a community pharmacist.
Never had any side effects other than simple stomach irritation that I was made aware of, and for most a large part of my tenures I was with the same patient populations.
"Eye abnormalities" especially pain are a symptom of Covid infection.
My brother was telling me about 2 days worth, the airport mechanic described it for 2 weeks!
Interesting. This wasn't pain, just like strobes going off constantly around the edge of my vision. The only thing I'd changed was adding HCQ. The illness was like a mild flu with low fever, aches and fatigue.
This "strobing" may have been from optic inflammation which has occurred secondary both to Covid infection as well as spike protein from vaccination.
If you take the HCQ again and it reoccurs please let me know. This would be very unusual. If you have diabetes which can be a cause, I wonder if the infection affected your blood levels more severely for some reason. Or perhaps your optic nerve was unusually sensitive to the inflammation caused by Covid.
That's an interesting idea. Not diabetic or vaccinated. Hadn't thought of inflammation as a cause. Thanks for sharing that. I'm always curious about the 'why'.
No to the idea that omicron is a mild cold for most people. Internist with lots of patients and so my view is of course biased but it can be pretty rough and long.
One thing I do worry about: could ivm suffer the same problems as detailed here about Pax?
If you are unvaxxed, Covid is the most pathetic excuse for a weak cold ever. Not only do we have natural immunity, even if you DO get it, it's basically a joke. A hangover is more debilitating.
Unless they release a new strain unrelated to Omicron, I literally don't care about Covid treatments anymore. They are redundant. Yes, the vaxxed are getting hammered by it, but we tried to warn them and there is nothing we can do now. Do these treatments work for the vaxxed? Is there any way for them to repair the fact that 60% of them have zero ability to acquire natural immunity because they have no ability to mount a defence against the nucleocapsid protein when re-exposed to the virus?
Does anyone in authority care? No, we literally had some US Government criminal state that "I genuinely believe the reason we have two arms is so we can get vaccinations in them". And people will listen to that and say "wow, that's so profound".
There comes a point where there is no hope for people. Let them win their Darwin Award. People are still wearing masks (sometimes two) despite being quadruple "vaccinated".
Let these people live in the horrific world they have built for themselves by trusting "governments". You can't reach them. They are too far gone now.
> "If you are unvaxxed, Covid is the most pathetic excuse for a weak cold ever. Not only do we have natural immunity, even if you DO get it, it's basically a joke. A hangover is more debilitating."
Hyperbole won't help our cause, only serve to turn people away. I am unvaccinated, and my bout with covid was the worst cold/flu illness I've ever had, a hell of a lot more debilitating than a hangover. And this was with early Omicron.
I had muscle aches all over my body for days, and about 5 days in it quite hard to breathe. I was legitimately concerned. The cough was rough, and it lingered for over a month.
I hope you had an easier time of it, and I'm sure a lot of people - vaccinated or not - didn't even know they had it. But please, don't declare what everyone's experiences were or weren't.
I had it, and it wasn't a bad cold, more like a nasty flu. Someone I know lost their sense of smell and and their taste sense got messed up for months. This was pretty early on in the scamdemic. I expect it got less dangerous as viruses always do.
I may have had OG Covid in December 2019. I was sick for six weeks and that has never happened before or since.
My unvaxxed Mum who is 72 got Omicron at the same time I did. We were both "ill" for about a day. All the people I met who had Omicron had the same experience as me. Reading SubStack, people who got Omicron had the same experience.
It sounds like you caught Delta to me, there was some overlap.
I admit, there was a brief period - maybe 45 minutes tops - where I was definitely quite ill, but that was the peak of the infection and after that I was fine.
I am unvaccinated and never had Covid. But pretty much all the unvaccinated people in my circle have had Omicron this year as their first infection with Sars Cov 2. It was extremely rough on all of them. Some had to seek medical help. Majority had symptoms lasting on average a month to 6 weeks. Way worse than any flu/cold they've ever had is what they ALL tell me. Age range 35-67. Ironically, the unvaccinated people I know who came down with Delta as their first infection had a milder case.
The vaccinated/boosted I know have had a mild run of Omicron for the most part and a quick recovery.
I think we should be realistic and acknowledge the potential severity of this lab made virus including promoting a treatment protocol for the unvaccinated who come down with the virus.
I believe that protocol exists and is effectively banned. The use of NAC is still available. I try to keep a 2 year supply. John Paul has done a superb job of presenting the data
Most of the unvaccinated including myself and wife had a mild run with omicron. One day of fever but with an extreme exhaustion. Some still didn't catch it.
Although all of my vaccinated relatives and colleagues had a multiday fever and real sick time with omicron.
So looks like everyone has a different experience in their circles.
When I had Omicron as an unvaxxed 60-something this past June, I hit it with EVERYTHING in the arsenal. IVM, HCQ (200mg 2X daily), continued on Vitamin D3 10,000 IU daily, Zinc, Metatonin, Azithromycin (as per Zelenko) etc., etc., etc... down to Curcumin. While Omicron had originally announced itself in my household by hitting my stepdaughter with a 103 fever, I never had a fever, never even had a sore throat. I was tired and had a cough.
Nobody, especially those who knew enough to avoid this jab, should have to suffer this without real early treatment. Do whatever you need to do to get these drugs. Get all the associated supplements that can play a role. Pay the money.. work with an FLCCC doctor or other. Use horse paste if you need to. A good unvax friend just lost his unvax mother because she was not prepared.. she ended up in the hospital, and they gave her the big R drug. 10 days later she died there. BTW Sheboygan, I was born in MI : )
NAC is something I have taken and recommended to others for many years. In 2020 early data suggested utility for CoV and shortly it became unavailable. If one wishes to see evidence of the truly malevolent intent of our federal bureaucracy, the attempt to ban OTC sales by the FDA is “#1 on the hit parade.”
Granted, we were using “Mucomyst” (the branded name for medical NAC 40 years ago) for Tylenol OD as a ‘prescription drug’ but it is utterly safe! It is not just “non-toxic” but it rebuilds our most important ANTIOXIDANT - glutathione. I have been aware of Pharma corruption of medicine for decades, but the EVIL of this move was staggering.
I’ll get down off my soapbox now, but this really angered me. Finding it on shelves in retail stores again has been a pleasant discovery, although I was always able to find it online.
NAC has at least a dozen, proved, clinical uses, but the main one was always the tylenol OD, or some sort of aggresive hepatic toxicity going on, off-label bodybuilders have been taking it for over 30+ years to protect their livers when they "juice".
The moment I read they were pushing to remove NAC from access of people, I knew the jig was up, since the main mechanism for disease progression and damage is ROS/oxidative stress, both things NAC excel at. Followed by the soft HCQ ban and now NMN... clearly only financial interests are take into consideration.
I found that the major drug chains in Canada had removed NAC. Happily the health food stores did not remove their supplies, so it has been easily available.
It was important to have no useful treatment for the EUA for the vaxxes to be granted, thus ensuring that the profits and control would take place.
So Pfizer knew that HCQ would help with adverse events from the vax, but they suppressed the knowledge? That is evil -- well, what else can you expect from that horrible company?
Yes they knew, but since simple interventions of common, generic antibiotic+HCQ would effectively "end" the pandemic, they couldn't let it pass, lose all those billions of dollars, plus a few shady deals in the background. Lets just say, both Pfizer and Moderna were PUSHED to produce the mRNA vaccine.
"what else can you expect from that horrible company?"
I expect them to run when the cops show up to arrest them for murder.
Funny how their nightmare is our dream come true
The more you fear a thing, the more you focus on it.
The more you focus on a thing, the sharper it resolves into being.
You think a group that was expert at mass mind-control would be a little more astute, but I guess millennia of inbreeding for cleverness and psychopathy also makes you retarded.
A Very Astute Observation...
Thank You!
Exactly!
Excellent!
Superb!
Thank you John Paul, and have a wonderful Thursday!
As usual, you’ve provided crucial information and analysis here, John Paul. 💗
Thank you for your kind words Samantha !
You’re so welcome!
Got 2 bottles of NAC. Is it prophylactic as well?
Yes, I take it everyday and have for years, and many others do as well, it has dozens of benefits, not solely against SARS-CoV-2, for general health. Older people THRIVE on NAC btw.
good to know! I am 74, in good health but it can't hurt to take it.
Me as well
Thank you!
I am conveying this information to others.
So sorry that you were sick. Hope you are all well now.
Happy thanksgiving to not only the Americans, but to all people who want to give thanks for the existence of kind people, especially those who are dedicated to helping us. Thank you to all!!
I read often that HCQ is safe for most everyone. When I had covid in June this year, I took it along with the supplement stack and IVM which I'd been taking prophylactically for several months. Had weird strobe lights effect in my vision the 2nd day of HCQ use. Stopped taking it and my eyes cleared. Online research shows vision disturbances can be an issue. Is this common? I was sick only a couple days so the protocol was working. The rest of the family (jabbed) were much sicker than I was.
I have seen a few people experiencing the exact same symptom, sometimes followed by heart arrhythmia, it is very rare, but it does happen in some people.
Good to know. I sometimes 'overreact' to normal doses of meds so perhaps this is just one I'll watch dosing on.
I dispensed HCQ regularly for most of my 38 years as a community pharmacist.
Never had any side effects other than simple stomach irritation that I was made aware of, and for most a large part of my tenures I was with the same patient populations.
"Eye abnormalities" especially pain are a symptom of Covid infection.
My brother was telling me about 2 days worth, the airport mechanic described it for 2 weeks!
Interesting. This wasn't pain, just like strobes going off constantly around the edge of my vision. The only thing I'd changed was adding HCQ. The illness was like a mild flu with low fever, aches and fatigue.
Something similar has been known to happen with Ivermectin. It’s probably not a big deal if you are just taking it for a week or so.
This "strobing" may have been from optic inflammation which has occurred secondary both to Covid infection as well as spike protein from vaccination.
If you take the HCQ again and it reoccurs please let me know. This would be very unusual. If you have diabetes which can be a cause, I wonder if the infection affected your blood levels more severely for some reason. Or perhaps your optic nerve was unusually sensitive to the inflammation caused by Covid.
That's an interesting idea. Not diabetic or vaccinated. Hadn't thought of inflammation as a cause. Thanks for sharing that. I'm always curious about the 'why'.
Hcq causes eye issues after longer term use generally. This is likely the virus
Maybe, although the symptoms resolved the day after I stopped it. If I'm sick again I'll try it again and see what happens.
No to the idea that omicron is a mild cold for most people. Internist with lots of patients and so my view is of course biased but it can be pretty rough and long.
One thing I do worry about: could ivm suffer the same problems as detailed here about Pax?
I have said after 6 weeks of the first Omicron variant popping up, this wasn't mild, it just doesn't kill you, especially doesn't kill you fast.
I hate when people write things like that.
If you are unvaxxed, Covid is the most pathetic excuse for a weak cold ever. Not only do we have natural immunity, even if you DO get it, it's basically a joke. A hangover is more debilitating.
Unless they release a new strain unrelated to Omicron, I literally don't care about Covid treatments anymore. They are redundant. Yes, the vaxxed are getting hammered by it, but we tried to warn them and there is nothing we can do now. Do these treatments work for the vaxxed? Is there any way for them to repair the fact that 60% of them have zero ability to acquire natural immunity because they have no ability to mount a defence against the nucleocapsid protein when re-exposed to the virus?
Does anyone in authority care? No, we literally had some US Government criminal state that "I genuinely believe the reason we have two arms is so we can get vaccinations in them". And people will listen to that and say "wow, that's so profound".
There comes a point where there is no hope for people. Let them win their Darwin Award. People are still wearing masks (sometimes two) despite being quadruple "vaccinated".
Let these people live in the horrific world they have built for themselves by trusting "governments". You can't reach them. They are too far gone now.
> "If you are unvaxxed, Covid is the most pathetic excuse for a weak cold ever. Not only do we have natural immunity, even if you DO get it, it's basically a joke. A hangover is more debilitating."
Hyperbole won't help our cause, only serve to turn people away. I am unvaccinated, and my bout with covid was the worst cold/flu illness I've ever had, a hell of a lot more debilitating than a hangover. And this was with early Omicron.
I had muscle aches all over my body for days, and about 5 days in it quite hard to breathe. I was legitimately concerned. The cough was rough, and it lingered for over a month.
I hope you had an easier time of it, and I'm sure a lot of people - vaccinated or not - didn't even know they had it. But please, don't declare what everyone's experiences were or weren't.
I had it, and it wasn't a bad cold, more like a nasty flu. Someone I know lost their sense of smell and and their taste sense got messed up for months. This was pretty early on in the scamdemic. I expect it got less dangerous as viruses always do.
That's why I specifically said Omicron. If you catch Omicron now and are unvaxxed, it's basically a joke.
I caught Omicron off my double vaxxed neighbour, who almost got admitted to hospital and was sick for more than two weeks.
Indeed. I know someone 9 months into complete loss of smell. Another person with no voice
Fair play.
I may have had OG Covid in December 2019. I was sick for six weeks and that has never happened before or since.
My unvaxxed Mum who is 72 got Omicron at the same time I did. We were both "ill" for about a day. All the people I met who had Omicron had the same experience as me. Reading SubStack, people who got Omicron had the same experience.
It sounds like you caught Delta to me, there was some overlap.
I admit, there was a brief period - maybe 45 minutes tops - where I was definitely quite ill, but that was the peak of the infection and after that I was fine.
I am unvaccinated and never had Covid. But pretty much all the unvaccinated people in my circle have had Omicron this year as their first infection with Sars Cov 2. It was extremely rough on all of them. Some had to seek medical help. Majority had symptoms lasting on average a month to 6 weeks. Way worse than any flu/cold they've ever had is what they ALL tell me. Age range 35-67. Ironically, the unvaccinated people I know who came down with Delta as their first infection had a milder case.
The vaccinated/boosted I know have had a mild run of Omicron for the most part and a quick recovery.
I think we should be realistic and acknowledge the potential severity of this lab made virus including promoting a treatment protocol for the unvaccinated who come down with the virus.
I believe that protocol exists and is effectively banned. The use of NAC is still available. I try to keep a 2 year supply. John Paul has done a superb job of presenting the data
Most of the unvaccinated including myself and wife had a mild run with omicron. One day of fever but with an extreme exhaustion. Some still didn't catch it.
Although all of my vaccinated relatives and colleagues had a multiday fever and real sick time with omicron.
So looks like everyone has a different experience in their circles.
When I had Omicron as an unvaxxed 60-something this past June, I hit it with EVERYTHING in the arsenal. IVM, HCQ (200mg 2X daily), continued on Vitamin D3 10,000 IU daily, Zinc, Metatonin, Azithromycin (as per Zelenko) etc., etc., etc... down to Curcumin. While Omicron had originally announced itself in my household by hitting my stepdaughter with a 103 fever, I never had a fever, never even had a sore throat. I was tired and had a cough.
Nobody, especially those who knew enough to avoid this jab, should have to suffer this without real early treatment. Do whatever you need to do to get these drugs. Get all the associated supplements that can play a role. Pay the money.. work with an FLCCC doctor or other. Use horse paste if you need to. A good unvax friend just lost his unvax mother because she was not prepared.. she ended up in the hospital, and they gave her the big R drug. 10 days later she died there. BTW Sheboygan, I was born in MI : )